The murder of Ahmaud Arbery/All three perpetrators found guilty

Started by Surtur123 pages

Originally posted by dadudemon
Someone else besides Whirly and PVS answer this question:

Am I going crazy or are Whirly and PVS moving the goalposts and being incredibly dishonest?

They have constantly done this, yes.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Huh?

Huh?

What...what are you talking about?

I cannot comprehend your game. I proved every point I brought up in my post which was this:

Which is why he's leaving for the day. he's hoping that by tomorrow your proof will be buried and he can pretend to have forgotten about it.

As more evidence comes out to show the reason behind the shooting wasn't racism people got increasingly desperate.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Right will read tomorrow... no rash of burglaries, no Police reports etc.

Translation: tomorrow you will come parrot whatever Bash is saying.

I accept Bash's apology

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/homicide

homicide
noun [ C/U ]

us /ˈh¨»m¡¤əˌs¨»ɪd, ˈhoʊ¡¤mə-/

the crime of killing a person; murder:

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Do you mean S and M et al? 👆

No, I mean the set of literally anyone else except for Whirly and PVS.

It's an exclusion set, in set theory.

Originally posted by Surtur
They have constantly done this, yes.

Perhaps I'm wrong.

Why would a rash of break-ins, burglaries, attempted burglaries, video evidence of all of those, and 911 calls about the break-ins and burglaries be irrelevant to the case for either the Prosecution or Defense?

Originally posted by dadudemon
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-shooting-of-ahmaud-arbery-an-unarmed-black-man-is-roiling-georgia?via=twitter_page

addressed this gaslighting attempt already:

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
re: first link:

Barnhill argued in his recusal letter that the McMichaels had “solid first hand probable cause” that Arbery was a burglary suspect. Barnhill did not elaborate on what that probable cause was or how he’d reached that conclusion, although two thefts had occurred in the neighborhood in the first two months of the year. One was a theft of $2,500 worth of fishing equipment from English’s property, [b]which he said he didn’t report to police but confirmed to The Daily Beast. The second report was of the theft of a 9mm handgun from Travis McMichael’s unlocked truck, which was first obtained by the Brunswick News.

so exactly like whirly said: one actual reported crime and one after-rhe-fact excuse with nothing to substantiate. should I waste my time reading through the rest? maybe later. [/B]

Originally posted by dadudemon
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/05/13/video-shows-person-at-construction-site-12-days-before-ahmaud-arberys-death/

Prior to Feb. 23, according to Graddy, English had never met Gregory McMichael. English said he met Travis McMichael once last summer when McMichael and his young son passed by the English property in a boat.

“Mr. McMichael’s son was attracted by the large crane and other machinery that was present for the purpose of installing a dock on the English property. Travis McMichael introduced himself and his son, and the men spoke for about 15 minutes in what is best described as a neighborly chat about the work on the property, Mr. McMichael’s recreational hunting, and Mr. English’s recreational fishing,” Graddy said.

^^doubling down on your gaslighting attempt. same unsubstantiated super-convenient excuse making after the homicide, with no report to the police. doesn't the fact that they never notified the police about thousands of dollars in fishing equipment seem...fishy? (sorry. had to)

Originally posted by dadudemon
[B]https://www.firstcoastnews.com/article/news/crime/911-call-by-travis-mcmichael-two-weeks-before-ahmaud-arberys-killing-reveals-moments-after-confrontation/77-906d10fd-0e93-47a5-900b-94668571de41

finally something interesting
The owner of the home under construction says the trespasser never takes anything, but he has seen him on his surveillance camera three or four times before just walking through the house.

i didn't know that he has been claimed to have trespassed several times, nor that McMichael confirmed that of all those times, nothing was ever stolen and no theft was even attempted. so i'm still thinking at this point "where is the second report of any theft?" i will read on through the next link:

Originally posted by dadudemon
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/05/13/video-shows-person-at-construction-site-12-days-before-ahmaud-arberys-death/

same info, nothing new, except for (as whirly pointed out):

On Tuesday, Graddy released another statement on English’s behalf in regards to the Feb. 23 video.

"Mr. English wants to correct the mistaken impression that he had shared this video or any other information with the McMichaels prior to the McMichaels’ decision to chase Mr. Arbery,” Graddy said. [b]“The homeowners had not even seen the February 23 video before Travis McMichael shot Mr. Arbery.”

so who's lying? english or mcmichael?

Originally posted by dadudemon
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/crime-courts/2020/05/14/911-call-text-days-before-Ahmaud-Arbery-shot-georgia-shooting/stories/202005140080

nothing new in this either, except for (as was discussed):

[b]“We’ve been having a lot of burglaries and break-ins around here lately,” McMichael told the operator.

again, as was already discussed, none of this "lot" of burglaries was reported to the police except for one time. still waiting on proof of even a second burglary. still feeling like my time would be better spent picking my belly button lint than reading these links, but i will persist...

Originally posted by dadudemon
https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-shooting-of-ahmaud-arbery-an-unarmed-black-man-is-roiling-georgia?via=twitter_page

k, nothing to even quote here that was not already mentioned. unless i missed something here? seems like you just spammed links to appear correct, hoping nobody would click them. i will continue against my better judgement and proceed with...

Originally posted by dadudemon
[B]https://nypost.com/2020/05/11/ahmaud-arbery-stopped-at-construction-site-minutes-before-death/
[/QUOTE]

same thing. arbery was tresspassing, which is not even a felony under georgia law. no cause for apprehension and lethal force.

any more link-piles to waste my time and razzle-dazzle your #NeverLogOff cheerleading crew? or maybe i missed some key bit of evidence in one of these links which has not been discussed?

quoted the wrong part of the second article. (https://www.news4jax.com/news/local...-arberys-death/). doesn't matter since no new info was given in it which was not already discussed before you and the rest of your cheerleading crew pretended victory'

where is the proof of even a second burglary, since none was even reported to the police? "just trust me bro"?

You didn't quote any of the points I made and then refute them. Instead, you added in your take on the facts from the articles.

Care to take another stab at everything I said and the links I provided and directly refute them?

Here my points are for you, again, to refute:

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah. Seems so.

Multiple break ins, October 2019 (likely different person).

Then two burglaries in Jan: fishing gear and gun. Then a break in, in Feb (the 911 call to police by McMichael). Then another burglary (fishing gear). Then another break-in by Arbery which led to his homicide (day he was killed).

There was a rash of break-ins and burglaries in my neighborhood back in 2016. 3 homes were hit (but we were the only house on our street at the time). My front door was kicked in and they had 30 seconds to steal anything at all before the house alarm went off. They ran straight to the master bedroom closet, looked at the jewelry box (which had nothing in it because we weren't fully moved in at the time) and ran right back out. They ran right passed the iPad Pro which was a $1200 electronic device...probably smart enough to know not to steal Apple iOS devices. After confirming with people in the street over that they were also hit, I bought a home video security system and it is awesome.

My particular situation was definitely a rash but the McMichael's neighborhood was worse.

Edit - Keep in mind, if you wish to refute the points I've made, your goal is to actually refute the news articles, themselves, not me. You're not trying to prove me wrong, you're trying to prove the facts in the news articles wrong. All of them or most of them include transcripts, images, and/or video evidence so you have quite the tall order of refutation.

k so you're gaslighting. nothing new to note in any of those links, no proof of even a second burglary. just the accused making convenient excuses of some massive unreported crimewave after the fact. good job wasting my time 👆

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
k so you're gaslighting.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You didn't quote any of the points I made and then refute them. Instead, you added in your take on the facts from the articles.

Care to take another stab at everything I said and the links I provided and directly refute them?

Here my points are for you, again, to refute:

Edit - Keep in mind, if you wish to refute the points I've made, your goal is to actually refute the news articles, themselves, not me. You're not trying to prove me wrong, you're trying to prove the facts in the news articles wrong. All of them or most of them include transcripts, images, and/or video evidence so you have quite the tall order of refutation.

you're going to waste more of my time with 4 year old burglaries? not today, buddy. i did my part in smacking down your gaslighting attempt, not going to burn away the rest of my weekend chasing more red herrings. buhbye 🙂

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
you're going to waste more of my time with 4 year old burglaries? not today, buddy. i did my part in smacking down your gaslighting attempt, not going to burn away the rest of my weekend chasing more red herrings. buhbye 🙂

Let's start at the top, then. Let's review my points chronologically.

If you agree on them, then we can determine what we agree on or whether or not you're being dishonest.

1. Were there a series of break-ins in 2019 in these neighborhoods?
2. If there were, do we have video evidence of these?
3. If we do, did I provide a citation to it?

Yes or no for each.

Let's start there.

Hmm

Holy shit why won't Bash stop lol

Probably because he thinks he’s perfect and never wrong. I don’t think I have ever seen him admit to being wrong about anything. Very odd way to live.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Let's start at the top, then. Let's review my points chronologically.

If you agree on them, then we can determine what we agree on or whether or not you're being dishonest.

1. Were there a series of break-ins in 2019 in these neighborhoods?
2. If there were, do we have video evidence of these?
3. If we do, did I provide a citation to it?

Yes or no for each.

Let's start there.

Since PVS won't answer, I will:

1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.

The property, owned by Larry English, had a motion-activated camera system that had picked up unknown people going onto the site, including a young man who started entering at night in late October.

English’s phone received an alert and a text with a video each time the cameras activated. He often called police, sometimes texting videos to officers who went to the neighborhood to check on the property.

After one of those episodes on Dec. 17, English received a text reply a few days later from a Glynn County officer alerting him that McMichael lived nearby and had offered to help.

“Greg is retired Law Enforcement and also a Retired Investigator from the DA’s office,” Officer Robert Rash texted English on Dec. 20, offering McMichael’s phone number. “He said please call him day or night when you get action on your camera.”

https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/suspect-arbery-shooting-had-offered-help-police/gFMpkRpX0Zk5edjvXrE6sN/

And here are screenshots from some of those videos:

That's one point of mine, definitively proven. That already establishes a rash of break-ins, and we don't even need to continue the conversation, from here. But I made lots of points.

Interested in continuing, PVS?

^^cheerleaders waving their pom-poms even though no evidence was given of any string of burglaries to warrant suspicion, quite the opposite in the 911 call 2 weeks prior, proving that he only trespassed with not even an attempt to commit burglaries. Not even a felony offense in Georgia. keep barking for your e-daddy without a clue. "Arf! Arf! Arf!"

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
...no evidence was given of any string of burglaries to warrant suspicion...

Rash of break-ins and 2 burglaries. Make sure you represent the facts right. 🙂

one reported burglary, one after the homicide convenient excuse, as was already discussed. top notch gaslighting as always from dadudecrew 👆

one burglary does not constitute a "rash", except for the rash making your butt hurt rn