Originally posted by Surtur
And no evidence points to racism as a motive 👆And I've said before even if they were mistaken about the number of break-ins it doesn't support the racist narrative.
you're the one trying to deflect to a racial narrative, not me.
i'm arguing the case of unlawful homicide (as opposed to justifiable homicide). you keep changing the topic. is it because you know i'm right and are too cowardly to confront the fact?
Originally posted by Robtard
Not reading back since FridayBut it is looking more and more like McMichael's was pissed off someone stole his gun from his unlocked truck and this was the reason for his vigilantism.
also seems to mean that his single stolen gun incident was also the sum total of this alleged neighborhood crimewave.
since evidence suggests that he had no knowledge of english's stolen fishing equipment, and no other recent B&E was reported, it also seems to prove that he was lying about said crimewave of B&E. why would he need to lie like that?
Originally posted by SurturThanks i thought it was relevant.
Some great info!Unfortunately we are still left with no evidence to support the racist narrative.
I have no intention of trying 2 prove or disprove any claims of racism, and ive neither argued for or against in this thread.
I posted it to highlight 2 things.
1. There defiantly seems to be some disconnect between what the Mcmichaels claim they knew from Larry and what Larry claims he conveyed to them.
2. My assessment of the situation all the way back to pg18 was pretty damn spot on.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I am unsure why this upsets you so much but the facts are the facts and this is not debatable.There's no need for me to keep quoting my own posts back at you if you refuse to acknowledge the facts of the case. I can't magically make this reports to the police disappear - they still happened.
What else do you want to talk about?
Be honest, you know why it upsets them. you're just to nice to say it.
Originally posted by Robtard
Not reading back since FridayBut it is looking more and more like McMichael's was pissed off someone stole his gun from his unlocked truck and this was the reason for his vigilantism.
Not just that, but they also had hero complexes where they though it was their responsibility to chase down and detain the person they thought was responsible for all the break-ins since October 2019.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
also seems to mean that his single stolen gun incident was also the sum total of this alleged neighborhood crimewave.since evidence suggests that he had no knowledge of english's stolen fishing equipment, and no other recent B&E was reported, it also seems to prove that he was lying about said crimewave of B&E. why would he need to lie like that?
Despite two people casing construction sites...
I'd guess because it sounds better from a legal standpoint when being a vigilante. "I'm getting revenge for my stolen gun" vs "I'm protecting my neighborhood from a crime wave".
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
you mean the one break-in where mcmicheal's gun was stolen, the only one which he seems to have had knowledge of? would that be "all"? 🙂
Originally posted by dadudemon
Since PVS won't answer, I will:1. Yes.
2. Yes.
3. Yes.The property, owned by Larry English, had a motion-activated camera system that had picked up unknown people going onto the site, including a young man who started entering at night in late October.English’s phone received an alert and a text with a video each time the cameras activated. He often called police, sometimes texting videos to officers who went to the neighborhood to check on the property.
After one of those episodes on Dec. 17, English received a text reply a few days later from a Glynn County officer alerting him that McMichael lived nearby and had offered to help.
“Greg is retired Law Enforcement and also a Retired Investigator from the DA’s office,” Officer Robert Rash texted English on Dec. 20, offering McMichael’s phone number. “He said please call him day or night when you get action on your camera.”
And here are screenshots from some of those videos:
That's one point of mine, definitively proven. That already establishes a rash of break-ins, and we don't even need to continue the conversation, from here. But I made lots of points.
Interested in continuing, PVS?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Not just that, but they also had hero complexes where they though it was their responsibility to chase down and detain the person they thought was responsible for all the break-ins since October 2019.
Yup, I've said before that this doesn't seem like racism this seems like they were wannabe vigilantes.
They called 911 before the shooting so it's not like they were planning to carry out a murder.
Originally posted by Surtur
Not at all, it's because my main point this entire time was that there is no evidence to suggest the shooting was racially motivated.
okay, yet i was not arguing against that. only time i mentioned it was when you yourself demanded that i answer on the topic, so i gave my opinion.
my argument has been against the notion that there was anything justifiable about this killing. while you has said that you feel it was a wrongful death, you also argue on the side of justifiable homicide. *tough choice meme not created yet*
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
you mean the one break-in where mcmicheal's gun was stolen, the only one which he seems to have had knowledge of? would that be "all"? 🙂
Should also be noted that he left his truck unlocked with a gun inside(unless this has changed?). Sure, no one should have entered and stolen it, but this guy is a complete negligent idiot, a kid could have entered that unlocked truck and shot themselves.
Originally posted by Surtur
Yup, I've said before that this doesn't seem like racism this seems like they were wannabe vigilantes.They called 911 before the shooting so it's not like they were planning to carry out a murder.
It could also be that they felt empowered by the police stating to work with and notify the McMichaels. "Situationally Deputized Police."
Originally posted by dadudemon
Not just that, but they also had hero complexes where they though it was their responsibility to chase down and detain the person they thought was responsible for all the break-ins since October 2019.
They're not honest enough to admit there have been multiple break-ins. they will just keep strawmanning by dishonestly referring to the number of official reports that were filed.
Originally posted by Silent Master
They're not honest enough to admit there have been multiple break-ins. they will just keep strawmanning by dishonestly referring to the number of official reports that were filed.
no evidence to suggest that mcmichaels had knowledge of the second unreported breakin. in fact the mcmichaels 911 call as well as english's statement points to the opposite: that mcmichaels only knew of one theft (his own gun)
oh well, guess you better do your time-waster troll loop routine since you have nothing to contradict that argument.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
okay, yet i was not arguing against that. only time i mentioned it was when you yourself demanded that i answer on the topic, so i gave my opinion.my argument has been against the notion that there was anything justifiable about this killing. while you has said that you feel it was a wrongful death, you also argue on the side of justifiable homicide. *tough choice meme not created yet*
As you say: I have not said this was justified.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
no evidence to suggest that mcmichaels had knowledge of the second unreported breakin. in fact the mcmichaels 911 call as well as english's statement points to the opposite: that mcmichaels only knew of one theft (his own gun)oh well, guess you better do your time-waster troll loop routine since you have nothing to contradict that argument.
So, now you admit that there were other break-ins?