The murder of Ahmaud Arbery/All three perpetrators found guilty

Started by Old Man Whirly!123 pages

Originally posted by dadudemon
Factually true and saying it is not true is the actual lie. 👆

Not sure why you want to lie about it.

Multiple break-ins: check.

Multiple burglaries: check.

Indisputable facts.

nope but good try, I notice you didn't post the links that undermine your narrative DDM. Now we are getting somewhere! 👆 I can't be bothered to pick the truth from them again.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
english did not implicate arbery. quite the opposite: he said plainly that arbery never stole anything from him; just walked through his construction site.

the fake "rash of burglaries" was McMichael's excuse.

And also what would be the motivation for English to lie about being robbed?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Factually true and saying it is not true is the actual lie. 👆

Not sure why you want to lie about it.

Multiple break-ins: check.

Multiple burglaries: check.

Indisputable facts.

even conceding the single unreported theft, and that mcmichaels knew about the stolen fishing equipment (no proof of that, btw) two thefts is not "a lot".

but keep trying super-hard to convince people that 2=a lot. i'm sure your reality-warping and gaslighting will sway the jury.

Originally posted by Surtur
And also what would be the motivation for English to lie about being robbed?
Bash already gave one of many reasonable reasons...

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Bash already gave one of many reasonable reasons...

yup

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
it is odd when someone has $2500 dollars worth of anything jacked from them, and fail to report it. usually in such cases the victim does suspect someone whom they don't want to send the police after. maybe some neighbors' kids being yahoos or some local junkie who's problems he didn't want to compound. who really knows.

...or maybe he kept his weed in his tacklebox 😂

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
even conceding the single unreported theft, and that mcmichaels knew about the stolen fishing equipment (no proof of that, btw) two thefts is not "a lot".

but keep trying super-hard to convince people that 2=a lot. i'm sure your reality-warping and gaslighting will sway the jury.

I honestly don't get why someone would gaslight to support a false narrative involving such a tragic incident

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Bash already gave one of many reasonable reasons...

No he didn't. He gave reasons why one might not report to the cops they were robbed.

Originally posted by Surtur
And also what would be the motivation for English to lie about being robbed?

i can't think of any. what would be your evidence that mcmichaels knew of this unreported incident?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I honestly don't get why someone would gaslight to support a false narrative involving such a tragic incident

This is either trolling or it's hypocrisy on such a level that it probably qualifies as a mental illness.

Originally posted by Surtur
No he didn't. He gave reasons why one might not report to the cops they were robbed.
I can see people don't want to represent the media and facts honestly so I'm done with this thread for now. Facts are facts, gas lighting aside.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
even conceding the single unreported theft, and that mcmichaels knew about the stolen fishing equipment (no proof of that, btw) two thefts is not "a lot".

You've admitted multiple burglaries and break-ins, now.

We are getting somewhere.

Now I just need you to acknowledge Georgia State Law on what constitutes a burglary.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
but keep trying super-hard to convince people that 2=a lot.

first comes the memez, then personal attacks no doubt. but shitposting aside, i ask again:

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
what would be your evidence that mcmichaels knew of this unreported incident?
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i can't think of any. what would be your evidence that mcmichaels knew of this unreported incident?

Never said I had evidence they knew. We do have evidence English had their number in order to call for assistance. It's possible he alerted them to the theft. Maybe he volunteered the information to them, maybe they had mentioned to him about how they were robbed and then he told them. Or maybe he never told them.

But trying to say their comments about a rash of break-ins supports the opinion that they are racist is just crazy.

Anyways, in your *opinion*, was English lying when he said he was robbed?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
I can see people don't want to represent the media and facts honestly so I'm done with this thread for now. Facts are facts, gas lighting aside.

LOL! So you flee once proven wrong. Okay, but Bash even reposted the comment. He was giving reasons someone might not report the robbery to the cops. I was asking why someone might lie about the fact they were robbed.

I'm not sure why this being pointed out triggered you.

if mcmichaels was like "oh yeah, english had already had items stolen from his property" would that not have been a wrecking ball to the plaintiff's case?

would have raised my eyebrows, but alas that never was spoken, leading me to believe that mcmichaels did not know about english's previous unreported incident, and that "a lot" of B&E thefts was a flatout lie.

i'm sure you'll provide proof that mcmichaels knew about english's stolen fishing equipment shortly...

None of why PVS or Whirly are talking about matters. Their points are moot and irrelevent to the court case.

The only thing that needs to be proven is that there were multiple break-ins in the neighborhood. That's it. They can acknowledge that or deny it: facts don't care how they feel about it.

From there, the next step is proving that the McMichael's had first hand knowledge of Arbery's burglary or attempted burglary. That's on both the prosecutor to disprove and on the defense to prove.

this matters, regardless of your feelings:

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
if mcmichaels was like "oh yeah, english had already had items stolen from his property" would that not have been a wrecking ball to the plaintiff's case?

would have raised my eyebrows, but alas that never was spoken, leading me to believe that mcmichaels did not know about english's previous unreported incident, and that "a lot" of B&E thefts was a flatout lie.

i'm sure you'll provide proof that mcmichaels knew about english's stolen fishing equipment shortly...

no mention of english's previous incident in the mcmichaels 911 call. odd, that

Originally posted by dadudemon
You've admitted multiple burglaries and break-ins, now.

We are getting somewhere.

And even if the argument is "he should have said there were multiple burglaries, rash was too strong a word" I'm not sure how this is evidence of racism.

Now I just need you to acknowledge Georgia State Law on what constitutes a burglary.

I'm curious if he will.

the burden of proof is not on me to prove that mcmichaels didn't know that english was robbed. since he never mentioned it to the police in his 911 call, concerning english's allegedly stolen property (quite relevant wouldn't you say?), it seems he had no idea and was trying to pass a single theft off as a neighborhood crimewave.

i'm sure you'll provide evidence to the contrary shortly...

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
this matters, regardless of your feelings:

no mention of english's previous incident in the mcmichaels 911 call. odd, that

Neither of us knows what he told the prosecutor.

Speaking of the 911 call, why would two guys about to commit a hate crime call the cops?