Blue Marvel vs Superboy (Kon-El)

Started by carver911 pages
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
HE BEAT AQUAMAN THE MOST POWERFUL BEING IN THE HISTORY OF DC COMICS

Thread should be closed. Conner stomps

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Okay. Let's take a look at another part of the scan.

https://imgur.com/a/Qp4rJ6P

Now based on basic reading comprehension, out of the words "contain" and "stabilize", which is the primary point and which is the secondary, additional point? Here is a hint. A word stated second as well as having "even" in front of it is clearly the additional, secondary point.

So what do life support machines contain?

1) you’re cropping scans to hide context again.
2) I didn’t bring up life support machines but they definitely don’t subdue.
3)This question remains unanswered..

Did they want to stabilize the being or subdue him? And why?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
HE BEAT AQUAMAN THE MOST POWERFUL BEING IN THE HISTORY OF DC COMICS

He affected SBP too.
But strength is one of the least important factors here. Speed is much more important.

Originally posted by carver9
Thread should be closed. Conner stomps

👆

I asked Pr, Mungi and Comicfan.

They told me Aquaman is even stronger than the Hulk and his pants are greener than Hulk's skin!

Originally posted by Diesldude
1) you’re cropping scans to hide context again.
2) I didn’t bring up life support machines but they definitely don’t subdue.
3)This question remains unanswered..

Did they want to stabilize the being or subdue him? And why?

The full page has already been presented. There is no lost context. As to your question, letsnlook at the definition of "subdue".

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subdue

2 : to bring under control especially by an exertion of the will

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/subdue

2 a. To bring under control by physical force, persuasion, or other means; overcome

Quite clearly, BM does this; that is bring him under control. So yes, he does subdue him. There is no either or. He brings him under control by trapping him, containing him and finally stabilizing him. SUBDUED.

😂 😂

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
HE BEAT AQUAMAN THE MOST POWERFUL BEING IN THE HISTORY OF DC COMICS

Nice of you to ignore that Aquaman also beat him.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Nice of you to ignore that Aquaman also beat him.

😈

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The full page has already been presented. There is no lost context. As to your question, letsnlook at the definition of "subdue".

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subdue

2 : to bring under control especially by an exertion of the will

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/subdue

2 a. To bring under control by physical force, persuasion, or other means; overcome

Quite clearly, BM does this; that is bring him under control. So yes, he does subdue him. There is no either or. He brings him under control by trapping him, containing him and finally stabilizing him. SUBDUED.

I think the point is that he brought a dying character under control. Much like a doctor would bring a dying patient under control.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think the point is that he brought a dying character under control. Much like a doctor would bring a dying patient under control.

Where do you get that he is dying?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The full page has already been presented. There is no lost context. As to your question, letsnlook at the definition of "subdue".

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/subdue

2 : to bring under control especially by an exertion of the will

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/subdue

2 a. To bring under control by physical force, persuasion, or other means; overcome

Quite clearly, BM does this; that is bring him under control. So yes, he does subdue him. There is no either or. He brings him under control by trapping him, containing him and finally stabilizing him. SUBDUED.

Why are you looking up a word that wasn’t even used in the scan?

Why are you defining Subdue when it was never used.

Look up Stabilize. SMH it’s like you see words in comics that you want to see and not the words that are actually written.

How the hell can I or anyone even get through to a guy like you that refuse to see the words that are actually in the comic.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Where do you get that he is dying?
that’s why Adam tried to stabilize him right

This whole thing started with claims that Adam can subdue an abstract. It was quite clear that they were trying to say that Adam overpowered an abstract. And presented the scan below to make a case.

Subdue was never used, stabilize was.
Thehulkster is using a comparison to try to argue that Adam subdued an “abstract” because the word “trap” was used.

In the first panel Adam is speaking of his powers. He says blasting energy is easy, but creating bubbles to trap is more difficult. what’s harder? Blast away or creating a bubble around someone to trap? Blast away of course. That’s what he’s saying here in the first Panel.

Then in the second panel he tells us why he’s using the bubble, it is to contain and to stabilize. Not to subdue or trap...

Why stabilize that entity? The entity was weakened and Adam thought that it would die before telling its story. He created a bubble around it so that it can stabilize and stay alive long enough to tell them what was going on.

smh and then finally he calls that entity “friend”. You don’t overcome/ overpower/ subdue/ trap a friend that is too weak to speak, you help and stabilize him.

The entity never resisted. You can’t gain points for subduing someone that never resisted. So even if a damn restrained/overpowered/trapped/ subdued it doest count because the entity allowed it.

Their entire point Was to show that at adam’s highest feat level he can hang with an abstract. And that is wrong.

If he subdued an abstract at it’s full strength and that abstract was fighting against him and could not free himself then they would have a case but none of this was the case.

Myth busted.. adam hasn’t shown any abstract level feats or restraining abstracts so that crap can’t be used in an argument.

What does contain mean Diesldude?

Diesldude owning it last few pages 👆

What Adam did isn’t different to what lanterns do when they create bubbles around JLA as protection.

Originally posted by carver9
What does contain mean Diesldude?
Originally posted by carver9
What does contain mean Diesldude?

I know what it means why don’t you look it up yourself and explain why you think it’s relevant here.

Originally posted by Diesldude
that’s why Adam tried to stabilize him right

No. His incorporeal form is unstable and prone to dissipating. Adam stabilizes it in order to hear his message. Nothing about him dying.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
No. His incorporeal form is unstable and prone to dissipating. Adam stabilizes it in order to hear his message. Nothing about him dying.
do you have proof of this in the comic?

Regardless how powerful is an abstract that is unstable Andy prone to dissipating without a protective bubble?

So we are in agreement that Adam didn’t overpower an abstract?