Blue Marvel vs Superboy (Kon-El)

Originally posted by TheHulkster
We have yet to be presented with a feat from Conner, only notions of potential that have not materialized in any books. Someone even noted that he loses to Aquaman. BM has:

Knocked Sentry into orbit while fighting him and other Avengers

Beaten King Hyperion

Punched Namor as Hard as Hulk or Thor

Casually carried Arkansas sized meteor

Tanked a hydrogen bomb

Stalemated Hickman's Hyperion

One shotted Ultimate Hulk

Smashed Ultimo (team buster)

Knocked Maestro for a loop.

Hit Namor with Hulk/Thor level punch.

Defeated an alien whose power registered off the charts.

Etc.

I’m glad you’re no longer pushing the “subdued an abstract” feat. 😂

Originally posted by -K-M-
And the ghost of shaper was breaking free and would have unless Monica boosted him. That was a large bit of context

Black Panther was impressed because he thought it was the shaper. BM corrected him

Have proof this ghost/echo was multiversal? As just earlier Black Panther/Captain Marcel was able to dissipate and beat the ghost easily. While he was recovering that’s when BM used his field

Where did I say his ghost is multiversal? BM contains him before the effort to break out and the "boost" is is a mental boost to enable greater focus and less pain. Not a power boost.

This is still the ghost of a cosmic cube being whose body is used to rereate existence.

And how powerful was this ghost, considering it's been stablished that it's nothing like the real deal?

Originally posted by Adam Grimes
And how powerful was this ghost, considering it's been stablished that it's nothing like the real deal?

Originally posted by Diesldude
I’m glad you’re no longer pushing the “subdued an abstract” feat. 😂

That's already been established and moved on

Originally posted by TheHulkster
That's already been established and moved on

Originally posted by -K-M-
Some of those feats listed above have additional context as well

Now having said that, can I see Blue Marvel winning? Yes. Personally I think it’s a pretty close fight

What are they?

And this is really not close at all. BM wins this pretty easily.

Originally posted by Diesldude
established as a lie? Is that why you left it out of your list of feats.

It's already been presented for multiple pages. You have issues comprehendiding the definition of subdue. I can't help you with that.

When are you going to present Conner's feats?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Where did I say his ghost is multiversal? BM contains him before the effort to break out and the "boost" is is a mental boost to enable greater focus and less pain. Not a power boost.

This is still the ghost of a cosmic cube being whose body is used to rereate existence.

“The Shaper's body is used to create a multiverse” why bring this up if it has no bearing to his ghost form? He was containing him while he was reforming after Black Panther and Captain Marvel disintegrated him. When the ghost reformed he was about to break out

She manipulated his neurotransmitters including boosting his dopamine and seratonin to give him a mental boost. So if he couldn’t do it on his own and needed help (his words) that means in your head he can do it on his own? No different then Quicksilvers boost in Avengers. He couldn’t reach those levels without the mental boost

Great. So what feats does this ghost have? What level is he at exactly?

Originally posted by TheHulkster
It's already been presented for multiple pages. You have issues comprehendiding the definition of subdue. I can't help you with that.

When are you going to present Conner's feats?

Originally posted by -K-M-
“The Shaper's body is used to create a multiverse” why bring this up if it has no bearing to his ghost form? He was containing him while he was reforming after Black Panther and Captain Marvel disintegrated him. When the ghost reformed he was about to break out

She manipulated his neurotransmitters including boosting his dopamine and seratonin to give him a mental boost. So if he couldn’t do it on his own and needed help (his words) that means in your head he can do it on his own? No different then Quicksilvers boost in Avengers. He couldn’t reach those levels without the mental boost

Great. So what feats does this ghost have? What level is he at exactly?

Seriously I wish I had the issue so I could read it. I was just going by the scans they posted and nowhere did it seem like Adam subdued him.

Knocked Sentry into orbit while fighting him and other Avengers
-he did. After Sentry stopped attacking and tried to talk to him. Also we know the negative zone energy leaking into earth was messing with Sentry (confirmed by writer if you choose to go by that)

One shotted Ultimate Hulk
-Ultimate Reed manipulated the Ultimates including their memories. We have no idea what else he did but they weren’t the same. Good feat yes, but there is an asterisks with it

Knocked Maestro for a loop.
-never happened. He was completely fine and also there was context as was taken by surprise. There’s also the fact he having a mental battle at the same time with the symbiote hord

Edit

Thanks, you can edit out the link.

Originally posted by Diesldude
. I think they said a weakened abstract.

Seriously I wish I had the issue so I could read it. I was just going by the scans they posted and nowhere did it seem like Adam subdued him.

You didn't read the issue? You're arguing something that you never read?

SmH looks like none of them read the comic because if they had they could have mounted a better defense against me.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Knocked Sentry into orbit while fighting him and other Avengers
-he did. After Sentry stopped attacking and tried to talk to him. Also we know the negative zone energy leaking into earth was messing with Sentry (confirmed by writer if you choose to go by that)

One shotted Ultimate Hulk
-Ultimate Reed manipulated the Ultimates including their memories. We have no idea what else he did but they weren’t the same. Good feat yes, but there is an asterisks with it

Knocked Maestro for a loop.
-never happened. He was completely fine and also there was context as was taken by surprise. There’s also the fact he having a mental battle at the same time with the symbiote hord

Writer statements are inadmissable right? Y'all can't pick and choose that. Nothing about anything messing with Sentries power in book.

You can't speculate context, so Ultimate Hulk stands.

No one says he wasn't fine. Still clocked and sent flying back.

Originally posted by Stoic
His lifting feats are attributed to tactile telekinesis. Conner lifted a train, and he strained while doing so. Adam lifted a meteor the size of a state, and showed no signs of it being close to his strength cap. Adam fought King Hyperion on equal footing, and he wasn't blitzed by Hyperion's super speed which shows that he can fight super fast beings. The same can be said about his short bout with Sentry. The answer should be obvious, Conner would be over his head, and should be one shot by this level of opponent, or outright dominated.

Also nearly splits the moon with a blow.

I can surprise punch Mike Tyson while he's eating his breakfast 2kg medium-rare ribeye. Add that to my respect thread right now.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Writer statements are inadmissable right? Y'all can't pick and choose that. Nothing about anything messing with Sentries power in book.

You can't speculate context, so Ultimate Hulk stands.

No one says he wasn't fine. Still clocked and sent flying back.

Correct. We also have the Sentry mini which negative energy confirms it does weakens him. Also says that in his handbook entries too. So there’s that too

That’s not speculation. We know for a fact Reed manipulated them and modified reality including removing their memories

“Sent for a loop” is inferring more happened when didn’t do anything