Man Gunned Down Over Property Dispute

Originally posted by StyleTime
You can't just chill out for months playing the Resident Evil 3 Remake like nothing happened.

I believe in the Arbery case, the McMichael's were not at risk for flight and they had conflict of interest problems to work through before a prosecutor could sit in on the case and recommend it be sent to a Grand Jury for the initial indictment.

We would have seen delays in this thread's case if the prosecutor knew the person who committed the homicide, as well.

Also, someone mentioned in this thread about the swiftness of this case to charges compared to the McMichaels': how long did the outcry last before the case finally got a case put together by a prosecutor and sent to a Grand Jury?

I am muddying up the threads, I know. But this thread's case is very similar in that both claim self-defense, white and black races involved, gun use, and a death.

Why would you wish to muddy unrelated threads DDM? 😂

Originally posted by dadudemon
I believe in the Arbery case, the McMichael's were not at risk for flight and they had conflict of interest problems to work through before a prosecutor could sit in on the case and recommend it be sent to a Grand Jury for the initial indictment.

We would have seen delays in this thread's case if the prosecutor knew the person who committed the homicide, as well.

Also, someone mentioned in this thread about the swiftness of this case to charges compared to the McMichaels': how long did the outcry last before the case finally got a case put together by a prosecutor and sent to a Grand Jury?

The Grand Jury delay makes sense, especially with COVID-19 blocking them. I don't know it excuses the lack of arrest though, which is where much of the controversy lies. From my understanding, the commissioner explained the officers at the scene did find probable cause, but the DA office(Johnson) told them not to arrest the McMichaels anyway. Johnson later recuses herself from the case because she previously worked with the elder McMichael when he was employed by her office. The subsequent DA(Barnhill) did similar, and also has ties to McMichael. It seems suspect that the cops had probable cause, but are stopped by people with ties to McMichael. That seems to be a recurring theme: people with ties to McMichael tended to excuse him. When outsiders were brought in, they're like "wtf...arrest these dudes."

The GBI also found probable cause, which is why they arrested the McMichaels, and are investigating the DA's office along with the shooting. The FBI are also lending a hand. On top of that, the county manager has accused the police force of a "culture of cronyism" in addition to the cases of misconduct against them. It's really starting to look like they were covering for their bro rather than doing their jobs(not blaming the cops on the scene.)

Obviously, new info comes out every day. Things could change so I can't make conclusions for certain. My eyebrow is definitely raised here though. Their DA office is looking mighty silly at the moment.

Originally posted by dadudemon

I am muddying up the threads, I know. But this thread's case is very similar in that both claim self-defense, white and black races involved, gun use, and a death.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Perhaps not the best example on my part, but I meant moreso the legal process wasn't obstructed.

The Grand Jury delay makes sense, especially with COVID-19 blocking them. I don't know it excuses the lack of arrest though, which is where much of the controversy lies. From my understanding, the commissioner explained the officers at the scene did find probable cause, but the DA office(Johnson) told them not to arrest the McMichaels anyway. Johnson later recuses herself from the case because she previously worked with the elder McMichael when he was employed by her office. The subsequent DA(Barnhill) did similar, and also has ties to McMichael. It seems suspect that the cops had acceptable probable cause, but are stopped by people with ties to McMichael. That seems to be recurring theme in this case, people with ties to McMichael tended to excuse him. When outsiders are brought in, they're like "wtf...arrest these dudes."

The GBI found probable cause, and are investigating the DA's office along with the shooting. The FBI are also lending a hand. On top of that, the county manager has accused the police force of a "culture of cronyism" in addition to the cases of misconduct against them. It's really starting to look like they were covering for their bro rather than doing their jobs(not necessarily the cops on the scene.)

Obviously, new info comes out every day. Things could change so I can't make conclusions for certain. My eyebrow is definitely raised here though. Their DA office is looking mighty silly at the moment.

We're all to blame somewhat here, as this kinda just turned into Arbery Thread No. 2. I'm fine moving it to the other one, although I have no idea what's already been discussed. It's 86 pages long.

I can't keep track of all the arguments but someone brought a good point about McMichael's case: the police were involved in pushing the McMichael's into being the "village police" in this scenario and, so, were slightly culpable so they were worried about moving this case forward without a ton of investigation - also why that case might have been delayed.

The dude in this thread that got shot was, by all accounts, a great man loved by all. Except for the guy who shot him. And the shooter did not have connections and was not pushed into confronting the victim in this thread's case. But the self-defense angle is very interesting. In this thread.

Edit - I am fine making this the compare and contrast to the Arbery murder case. I am not a thread-nazi. We're still on topic. We are trying to figure out why the McMichael's got over 2 months before formal charges and the shooter in this thread was almost immediately charged. I think we've largely figured it out.