Kylo Ren Respect Thread

I never said it was the latter. But by saying that Luke and Vader also possess formidable lightsaber skills, that gives us an idea of what they mean. Otherwise its unquantifiable

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Yeah. I mentioned this before, but in this instance there would have been no contextual reason to mention Kylo's saber skills in the same breath as those of Luke and Vader, if the intent wasn't to draw *some* sort of comparison between them.

And again: even if Kylo was in the same general tier as Luke/Vader as a swordsman, that doesn't mean he was equal to them.

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Just found a quote from Matt Marting saying that ROS Rey>ROTJ Luke in sabers.

Sounds stupid.

But you mind giving an exact quote?

I wouldn't be surprised if a writter declared ROS Rey had a thicker c*ck than Luke

He also said ROTJ Luke is nowhere near Vader or Anakin
His tweets are not an official source anyway.

Originally posted by Darthadi
He also said ROTJ Luke is nowhere near Vader or Anakin

Well then it has no relation to how good Kylo is anyway.

Just means he thinks Luke had not trained long enough yet.

Rey of course needs no training.... Because... that would be sexist.

Originally posted by Darthadi
He also said ROTJ Luke is nowhere near Vader or Anakin
His tweets are not an official source anyway.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well then it has no relation to how good Kylo is anyway.

Just means he thinks Luke had not trained long enough yet.

Rey of course needs no training.... Because... that would be sexist.

Who decides these things anyway?

The Story Group? Pablo Hidalgo? Dave Filoni?

Was ironically much simpler when Lucas had the final say.

I think it’s meant to be open to your own interpretation. Matt was just sharing his opinion

^ I like that. Its for the fans to debate. And I like all the comics and novels being proper canon now under Disney. Unlike under Lucas.

But I dont like the random quotes they crap out which dont mean anything. Like Vader being the strongest Sith. If they just confirm source books are a supplementary or secondary source, that would make stuff more clear.

The only consistently reliable source book to me seems to be the databank on the official site.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ I like that. Its for the fans to debate. And I like all the comics and novels being proper canon now under Disney. Unlike under Lucas.

But I dont like the random quotes they crap out which dont mean anything. Like Vader being the strongest Sith. If they just confirm source books are a supplementary or secondary source, that would make stuff more clear.

The only consistently reliable source book to me seems to be the databank on the official site.

Originally posted by Total Warrior
is it any different from the EU when every Jedi was “one of the finest swordsmen ever produced by the Order” or stuff like that ?

Well I dont think that was ever contradicted. But main Difference is There were levels of canon. So we knew which sources were more reliable when it came to blatant contradictions.

Over here everything is supposed to be equally canon When one source book says Mace is the greatest swordsman, and another one says its Yoda.

Then one quote says Vader is the strongest Sith, then a comic shows hes clearly no match for Palpatine at all.

Seems clear to me the comic takes precedence there, but they should make that official IMO.

^ The SW Book also states that Mace was "second only to Yoda" as a swordsman. So it definitively makes the pecking order clear in multiple entries(ie. Yoda>Mace.) So I personally hold that in higher esteem than the individual blurb from the Lightsaber Guide. /shrug

As for strongest Sith line: that was always questionable from the onset, given that in the original films, Vader was actively trying to recruit Luke for the sole purpose of trying to overthrow Palpatine(which he wouldn't need to do if he was already more powerful)... But yes, the recent comics make it blatantly clear that Palpatine >> Vader as of the ESB era.

"[Ben Solo] was the heir to the potential of the Skywalker line...":
https://ibb.co/dDqrB0D
-Insider #194

Does this imply that Kylo's potential = Anakin's? mmm

Not really imo. Just huge potential in general.
And insiders might not have canon value acording to Matt Martin. He said the insiders are editorial like the blogs and news section on Starwars.com

It's just your usual hype that any characters gets, nothing impressive