The death of George Floyd/Chauvin guilty

Started by Darth Thor130 pages

Originally posted by Surtur

Would anyone here be willing to make the argument that they would take issue with these people being called terrorists if everything else was the same except all the rioters were right wing?

Anyone? Anyone at all?

I would have an issue with that, because then terrorists will just have to refer to any crime committed.

Like youre gonna name the rioters/looters terrorists but not naming Derek Chauvin as a terrorist? Its ridiculous double standards.

As for right wing do you mean White Supremacists? Even then theres a big difference there. White Supremacists are known to murder people in the name of White Supremacy. They are clearly motivated by racism.

Again its not about left and right. You dont have to be racist to be right. You dont even have to support wars if youre right. Biden is left and did support the Iraq War. And supported increased drone strikes e.t.c.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/31/dave-patrick-underwood-named-black-fps-officer-kil/

Officer shot and killed in Oakland during George Floyd protest was black

A protest over the death of George Floyd, a black man killed last week in Minneapolis police custody, was the stage for the killing of another black man Friday in California.

Dave Patrick Underwood, 53, has been identified by family and friends as the Federal Protective Service officer shot and killed Friday night as he and a second officer worked security during a protest over the death of Mr. Floyd.

A gunman pulled up in a vehicle and began shooting at the two officers in front of the Ronald V. Dellums Federal Building in Oakland. The second officer was wounded, according to the FBI.

Angela Underwood Jacobs said in a Facebook post Saturday that Officer Underwood, who lived in Pinole, California, was her brother.

“My brother, Dave Patrick Underwood, a federal officer, was murdered 5/29/20 in Oakland California, while on duty during the riots,” said Ms. Underwood. “This Violence Must Stop.”

Originally posted by Scribble
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/31/dave-patrick-underwood-named-black-fps-officer-kil/

[b]Officer shot and killed in Oakland during George Floyd protest was black

A protest over the death of George Floyd, a black man killed last week in Minneapolis police custody, was the stage for the killing of another black man Friday in California.

Dave Patrick Underwood, 53, has been identified by family and friends as the Federal Protective Service officer shot and killed Friday night as he and a second officer worked security during a protest over the death of Mr. Floyd.

A gunman pulled up in a vehicle and began shooting at the two officers in front of the Ronald V. Dellums Federal Building in Oakland. The second officer was wounded, according to the FBI.

Angela Underwood Jacobs said in a Facebook post Saturday that Officer Underwood, who lived in Pinole, California, was her brother.

“My brother, Dave Patrick Underwood, a federal officer, was murdered 5/29/20 in Oakland California, while on duty during the riots,” said Ms. Underwood. “This Violence Must Stop.” [/B]

very sad, and it's only going to get worse, healing is needed not the rhetoric of division.

Yeah, we need more healing riots and looting.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
very sad, and it's only going to get worse, healing is needed not the rhetoric of division.
Agreed.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
very sad, and it's only going to get worse, healing is needed not the rhetoric of division.

IMO, the best chance we had would have been from someone like Andrew Yang.

These rioters aren't looking to fix social injustice, just like the la riots, ferguson riots, baltimore riots.........these groups are for causing destruction not dissent to bring about change to help their situations.

Originally posted by snowdragon
IMO, the best chance we had would have been from someone like Andrew Yang.

These rioters aren't looking to fix social injustice, just like the la riots, ferguson riots, baltimore riots.........these groups are for causing destruction not dissent to bring about change to help their situations.

Yang Gang represent. Shame he sold out his endorsement to Biden, but I still like the guy a lot. Hope he sticks in politics.

Originally posted by Scribble
Yang Gang represent. Shame he sold out his endorsement to Biden, but I still like the guy a lot. Hope he sticks in politics.

Can you truly support someone that sold out so easily?

I supported Tulsi for a while since she’s a vet like me, was behind her when Hillary called her a Russian spy, hollered when she sued Hillary. You have to understand, as an Haitian American that knows how much evils the Clintons committed against Haiti, I was happy with th lawsuit, I honestly didn’t care if she won, as long as a light was shine on Hillary, but out of nowhere she dropped the lawsuit.

So I’m curious why she did it. I question did she sold out like Yang whom you have a great amount of respect for, or Bernie who DDD also respect.

Originally posted by SquallX
Can you truly support someone that sold out so easily?

I supported Tulsi for a while since she’s a vet like me, was behind her when Hillary called her a Russian spy, hollered when she sued Hillary. You have to understand, as an Haitian American that knows how much evils the Clintons committed against Haiti, I was happy with th lawsuit, I honestly didn’t care if she won, as long as a light was shine on Hillary, but out of nowhere she dropped the lawsuit.

So I’m curious why she did it. I question did she sold out like Yang whom you have a great amount of respect for, or Bernie who DDD also respect.

Good questions.

I wonder in Tulsi's case whether she just didn't want to end up dead. Those Clintons sure leave a trail.

In Yang's case, I think it's just the sad case that establishment politics always win. Any unique mind or interesting underdog will eventually be swallowed up. It's disappointing, but not all that unforeseen.

I'm British, so I'll never have to decide to vote for any of them, but I think that Yang might be a general step in the right direction. I'd be happy having a world leader knocking about like him, even if he wouldn't be the radical change he could have been in a better world.

Originally posted by snowdragon
It's never terror to destroy billions of dollars in the same communities that already complain/show economic inequility and social injustice and then wonder why "ghettos" have no room to employee people or have ways of overcome generational poverty.

Amazing post. I'm stealing this thought and I will paraphrase it.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
murder is kinda essential for terrorism. not convinced.

It's a good thing you don't work for any federal agencies that help fight terrorism because this level of obstinate ignorance would impede investigations and counter-terrorism efforts.

hmm

Originally posted by SquallX
Can you truly support someone that sold out so easily?

I supported Tulsi for a while since she’s a vet like me, was behind her when Hillary called her a Russian spy, hollered when she sued Hillary. You have to understand, as an Haitian American that knows how much evils the Clintons committed against Haiti, I was happy with th lawsuit, I honestly didn’t care if she won, as long as a light was shine on Hillary, but out of nowhere she dropped the lawsuit.

So I’m curious why she did it. I question did she sold out like Yang whom you have a great amount of respect for, or Bernie who DDD also respect.

There could be a few good reasons she'd drop the suit. But one very good reason is she wants to stay alive. No, I am not kidding. Hillary is scary.

This is hard to watch. Apparently her sister was shot and killed at a protest by another protester.

https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1267670598127357952

https://qctimes.com/news/local/victims-family-names-woman-killed-overnight-in-davenport-unrest/article_416c64e0-84d5-50f1-9d84-bdba6cb0e8b2.html

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I would have an issue with that, because then terrorists will just have to refer to any crime committed.

Like youre gonna name the rioters/looters terrorists but not naming Derek Chauvin as a terrorist? Its ridiculous double standards.

As for right wing do you mean White Supremacists? Even then theres a big difference there. White Supremacists are known to murder people in the name of White Supremacy. They are clearly motivated by racism.

Again its not about left and right. You dont have to be racist to be right. You dont even have to support wars if youre right. Biden is left and did support the Iraq War. And supported increased drone strikes e.t.c.

I'm going by terrorism being something with some sort of political aim. Derek Chauvin is a piece of shit who deserves to die, I just don't know if he could be designated a terrorist.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
i don't care about antifa. i also don't care about random twitter accounts being used as "evidence". i could make a "kill the blacks in the name of lord trump" account to prove it, but i won't.

what i do care about is obvious red herrings. do you really think this will fool anyone into not addressing the systemic problems which led to all this?

great strawman btw. "PVS IS ANTIFA!!!! PVS IS EEEEEEEEEVIL" 👆


Originally posted by Bashar Teg
explain this then:
https://twitter.com/antifaintl?lang=en

divisive twitter troll accounts are easy to make. ask putin 👆
as far as the link you provided
https://archive.fo/https://twitter.com/ANTIFA_US/status/1267184839339290625

appears to have just been made today

why should i believe it was genuine? convince me, black lion

oh look, i was right and you were wrong. what a shock

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/02/tech/antifa-fake-twitter-account/index.html

reichstag fire

Sure bro, keep telling yourself that.

This is in regards to Scribble of wanting Yang as a world leader because of his character.

Remember Jimmy Carter? It was said Carter was one of the nicest people you would ever meet in your life, but he was a weak leader. I see the same with Yang. Good person, but overall a weak leader.

As to DDD on Clinton’s misers, yes I do believe the Clintons are all killers.

California liquor store owner uses AR-15 to protect his property from looters in George Floyd unrest

Nice

This is a suburb of Chicago:

Chaos In Cicero: 2 Bystanders Shot Dead In One Incident, Liquor Store Looting Suspects Caught Hiding In Another

*smh*

These damn white supremacists. I forgot this was MAGA country.

Originally posted by SquallX
This is in regards to Scribble of wanting Yang as a world leader because of his character.

Remember Jimmy Carter? It was said Carter was one of the nicest people you would ever meet in your life, but he was a weak leader. I see the same with Yang. Good person, but overall a weak leader.

As to DDD on Clinton’s misers, yes I do believe the Clintons are all killers.

Idk, perhaps. But he's been a successful business leader. I know that's not a prerequisite to being a great national leader, but still. I don't think he's just 'nice', I think he has flair and passion, and some good ideas to boot.

There are a few videos going around on twitter showing white people encouraging/enciting the violence. But no idea how legit they are:

https://twitter.com/wolfejosh/status/1267257095054856204?s=21

https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1267432104075370496?s=21

Originally posted by Darth Thor
There are a few videos going around on twitter showing white people encouraging/enciting the violence. But no idea how legit they are:

https://twitter.com/wolfejosh/status/1267257095054856204?s=21

https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1267432104075370496?s=21

I know, seems like antifa shit. I already posted the first one in a different thread cuz it's hilarious how they carry him away to the cops.