Whos stronger... DC Captain Marvel or Jane Thor

Started by DarkSaint855 pages

Wolverine's claws are like a molecule thick.

And they NEVER blunt or lose their edge.

Vibranium is weaker yes, but it's properties (of absorbing energy) mean that you have to take that into account.

His claws are "true adamantium" though.

The unbreakable stuff.

If it breaks, it's usually a safe bet it's "lesser adamantium", e.g. secondary.

No way to downplay this showing H1. Invulnerability is invulnerability, no matter the size.

Originally posted by carver9
No way to downplay this showing H1. Invulnerability is invulnerability, no matter the size.

I agree.

Again, is it "true adamantium"?

Because if it is, this would be a first. You understand Marvel has NEVER had Wolverine's kind of adamantium break. Ever.

Any time of it happening was quickly retconned as "secondary".

Hush cdtm

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Tearing through an adamantium-vibranium alloy with her fingers.

Nonsensical feat, but since the book feat got mentioned...

It is a pretty cool feat.

Originally posted by h1a8
Question: We know the durability of metal depends on its thickness. The walls were plated with adamantium. Plating is usually thin (less than 1/4 inch).
What's the greatest durability feat by adamantium and how thick was it at the time of that particular feat?
We need to start quantifying adamantium. Vibranium is definitely weaker.

None of what you said applies to adamantium, though.

Originally posted by carver9
No way to downplay this showing H1. Invulnerability is invulnerability, no matter the size.

I'm going to save this quote for a later date.

Originally posted by -Pr-

I'm going to save this quote for a later date.

😆

well It's right there on panel that it's a plating not the real thing and vibranium can be overloaded and destroyed with enough force too.

Originally posted by -Pr-
It is a pretty cool feat.

None of what you said applies to adamantium, though.

I'm going to save this quote for a later date.

There's no reason to save it though. Jane just did the impossible, thats all.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
well It's right there on panel that it's a plating not the real thing and vibranium can be overloaded and destroyed with enough force too.

I dont think plating have anything to do with it being real or not. Its just a description of the size.

Honestly that is impressive but it's been done before as well

Not exactly but in terms of mixing the 2 together:

Ms Marvel (2006) #44

cdtm does make a point when they say true there is no breaking unless they retcon what grade the metal was later on.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Wolverine's claws are like a molecule thick.

Considering how many times they've been stated and shown to be honed keen enough to slice through damn near anything with little to no effort, yeah, they'd have to be.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

And they NEVER blunt or lose their edge.

Correct, as confirmed by Hudson himself:

And Hudson and Department H sure did their research on them:

https://tinyurl.com/y86qv2ov

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Vibranium is weaker yes, but it's properties (of absorbing energy) mean that you have to take that into account.

Cap's shield is often written (both on panel in actual comics and in handbooks' detailed descriptions) as an adamantium-vibranium mix.

It's a mistake, technically, as Cap's shield predated adamantium:

https://tinyurl.com/yctxr7nu

Still, Marvel is not exactly known for their consistency when it comes to that subject.

What I'm trying to say is... it's entirely possible that Aaron wanted those thick doors to be as tough as Cap's shield... 😐

Either that... or it's yet another relatively low quality alloy (Alberto just posted a nice example). It's up for readers to decide, I guess.

Originally posted by carver9
There's no reason to save it though. Jane just did the impossible, thats all.

Don't you worry, I'll find a use for it.

Originally posted by cdtm
His claws are "true adamantium" though.

The unbreakable stuff.

If it breaks, it's usually a safe bet it's "lesser adamantium", e.g. secondary.

Adamantium Beta, actually.

As Wolverine's healing factor induced a change in True Adamantium.

But if anything, that only makes Wolverine's adamantium more indestructible than the real deal, going by feats.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Adamantium Beta, actually.

As Wolverine's healing factor induced a change in True Adamantium.

But if anything, that only makes Wolverine's adamantium more indestructible than the real deal, going by feats.

This.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Don't you worry, I'll find a use for it.

Lol

People get adamantium wrong all the time.
"True" is just an accident that occurred while trying to replicate Cap's shield (which isnt adamantium at all but a vibranium/steel alloy with a mystery ingredient...this alloy is sometimes called Proto).
Logan has "Beta" which is just "true" that's combined with his physiology.
Secondary is the one they made up to explain the instances in which the supposedly unbreakable had been broken.

Stilt can correct me on this if I'm wrong but Wolverine doesn't have the same adamantium in him that he started off with. The adamantium that is in his body is the adamantium that was on Cyber arms. The same adamantium that Apocalypse injected into Sabertooth.

Originally posted by carver9
Stilt can correct me on this if I'm wrong but Wolverine doesn't have the same adamantium in him that he started off with. The adamantium that is in his body is the adamantium that was on Cyber arms. The same adamantium that Apocalypse injected into Sabertooth.

Cyber had most of his skin covered with adamantium, not just his arms. His only vulnerable areas (that we know of) were his jaw and eyes. Even his f*cking testicles appeared to be protected by adamantium... I'm serious.

Anyway, Genesis tried to bond Wolverine's skeleton with Cyber's adamantium and failed, as Wolverine's healing factor forcefully expelled the adamantium, resulting in a massive shrapnel damage to the Dark Riders.

I don't remember what was Apocalypse's/Creed's source of adamantium. Don't think it was shown on panel.

But when Nur made Wolverine his horseman, he deprived Sabretooth of adamantium and gave it to Wolverine.

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So first we had Weapon X, then we had Apocalypse... and now it's Forge who does that job, under Xavier's orders:

https://www.cbr.com/x-men-x-force-wolverine-adamantium-skeleton/