Whos stronger... DC Captain Marvel or Jane Thor

Started by DarkSaint855 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
I ask for the best durability feat for adamantium. You troll and state that we can't apply real world logic to adamantium. Wtf is that? What you said has nothing to do with what I asked.

Do you understand?

We don't use no limits fallacy unless something actually withstood the infinity.

We use feats to determine the level something is at. If x tons is the most character A has lifted under stress then x tons is the strongest he can be in a forum. We don't simply say that since character A has never shown a limit then their strength is automatically limitless or infinite. You know this. This is common sense. Sometimes you can argue out of stubbornness. I never seen where you admit that you were wrong.

Read back to my post.

You wanted to quantify adamantium.

I'm saying we can't. Because it's a metal that defies physics. You say that's trolling, then report and we shall see where the chips fall. Otherwise, YOU'RE the one trolling.

Edit: and as I said, attempting to use logic on a metal that defies logic won't work.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Read back to my post.

You wanted to quantify adamantium.

I'm saying we can't. Because it's a metal that defies physics. You say that's trolling, then report and we shall see where the chips fall. Otherwise, YOU'RE the one trolling.

Edit: and as I said, attempting to use logic on a metal that defies logic won't work.


We quantify things by their highest feats. We don't assume a no limits fallacy.

Almost every feat in comics defy physics, yet we can still quantify the feats for comparison to others. Therefore your argument is flawed at its base.

Adamantium isn't infinitely durable without feats proving it, no matter how many illogical feats you this it may have. And yes please give us the feats that defy physics.

Now if there is a feat proving that it has infinite durability then please post it. Then you would have answered the question.

And that's fair.

My point was that we can't say something like 2mm thick plating is 2x as strong as 1mm.

Because quantifying something like that and assigning hard numbers to a magical metal can't be done.

And therefore, asking a question like "oh, that door was only plated, which isn't that thick, so it's not that impressive" shouldn't be asked.

Because we've seen Wolverine's bones - plated with adamantium - stand up to blows from almost every brick out there.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Thing did? You remember the issue?

Yeah, Alberto already posted the Carol scans.

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Adamantium alloys have a long history of being inferior to the pure adamantium, I'll give ya that.

In theory, adamantium-vibranium mix should be awesome. On par with Steve's shield, even.

But in practice... I think it's safe to say those two metals simply don't mix well... or perhaps they do, but it takes some brilliant metallurgist to make them.

It's still Jane's greatest pure strength feat, afaik.


Yup. Secret Invasion Fantastic Four.

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/bToJTt1

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And that's fair.

My point was that we can't say something like 2mm thick plating is 2x as strong as 1mm.

Because quantifying something like that and assigning hard numbers to a magical metal can't be done.

And therefore, asking a question like "oh, that door was only plated, which isn't that thick, so it's not that impressive" shouldn't be asked.

Because we've seen Wolverine's bones - plated with adamantium - stand up to blows from almost every brick out there.


But you focused 100% of the things I said that I really didn't care about and 0% of the things that actually mattered (highest feats). Why not at least address both? Explain why you think adding more adamantium (or another plate of it) to something would not make the force required to bend even harder. After that then just give one of adamantium's highest feats. That way you address both points.

Now to address then thickness issue.
If Wolverine's claws has that type or durability (while being molecules thick) then why wouldn't it be more durable being even thicker? Wouldn't that make admantium all the more impressive? In other words, if one person (a molecule) can brace against x force without succumbing then a trillion people (molecules) would be able to brace against a trillion times more force without succumbing.

Or If one can break or bend a plate of adamantium then clearly it would be harder to break or bend two or multiple stacked plates of it. it would definitely take multiple times more energy that is for sure.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yup. Secret Invasion Fantastic Four.

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/bToJTt1

Seems like Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa didn't give a f*ck about those little details.