Who can beat Superman with his full potential unlocked?

Started by Facee7 pages

Batman, easily.

Originally posted by JBL
So. He's no stronger when he goes all out. Don't fall for that OWAW crap. I personally debunked that crap with no response.

Superman with his potential and without holding backone-punched World Forger at least.
At least,He is far stronger than you downplay.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So many people reading comics without understanding them...

I can understand the concept of Superman.
I know he is as strong as plot needs him to be.
But, I want to know how powerful Superman can be if entire DC cosmlogy is at stake.
Dr Manhattan confirmed that literally everything in DC revolve around Superman.
So, I want to know what people think about this fact.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
This!

Some characters in comics are like this
Reed is as smart as needs to be. Whether he needs to come up with stupid tech or explanation

Superman is that guy in comics that the story will just straight up make
Him stronger. Evidently, he is also perhaps the only one that’s been confirmed to have the multiverse revolve around him. Doomsday Clock pretty much confirmed it

Reed is as smart as needs to be.

Or as dumb as he needs to be.

Everyone and their mother managed to "heal" Grimm back to his human form, but Reed still can't find a way to properly cure him.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Oh then you must not have seen where galan thoroughly debunks the idea that supes having dynamic strength in owaw is debunkable, via on panel confirmed, via full uncropped scans. Very cool stuff.
Superman in OWAW was doing nothing to those probes, yet WW, Doomsday, WW mother and Zod were destroying probes. So are you telling me that a normal Superman is not equal to them? And he's only equal to them when he's not holding back? You see, those four had no problem killing. Superman on the other hand did, that's why mongul had to teach him to fight like them.

Originally posted by CatL18
Superman with his potential and without holding backone-punched World Forger at least.
At least,He is far stronger than you downplay.
Superman was amped by multiple Suns.

Originally posted by JBL
Superman was amped by multiple Suns.

He was hugely depowered by World Forger.

Originally posted by CatL18
I can understand the concept of Superman.
I know he is as strong as plot needs him to be.
But, I want to know how powerful Superman can be if entire DC cosmlogy is at stake.
Dr Manhattan confirmed that literally everything in DC revolve around Superman.
So, I want to know what people think about this fact.

As of Doomsday Clock, there are zero narrative limits on Superman anymore. I mean, there really weren't before, but this is the most blatant I've seen DC be about him in years.

I ****ing hate it, but it is what it is.

Originally posted by CatL18
He was hugely depowered by World Forger.

He is beyond totally rejuvenated after first sun.

Originally posted by -Pr-
As of Doomsday Clock, there are zero narrative limits on Superman anymore. I mean, there really weren't before, but this is the most blatant I've seen DC be about him in years.

I ****ing hate it, but it is what it is.


Thank you.
I thought that recently,not only Superman but almost every main Justice Leaguers like Hal or Barry or Diana,etc have been PUMPPED up since years ago.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
He is beyond totally rejuvenated after first sun.

Why can't people understand this? Its like their minds go blank when they think about this ft. I just don't get it. How many times do people have to let the zombies know that he was amped.

Originally posted by CatL18
Thank you.
I thought that recently,not only Superman but almost every main Justice Leaguers like Hal or Barry or Diana,etc have been PUMPPED up since years ago.

Yeah, power creep has been an issue for a while. Even what most would classify B and C list characters have seen major bumps in power levels and feats. Feats are even starting to resemble some pre-crisis silliness at times. Sure, they're better fleshed out now because you can google shit, but a lot of them are no less ridiculous.

Originally posted by carver9
Why can't people understand this? Its like their minds go blank when they think about this ft. I just don't get it. How many times do people have to let the zombies know that he was amped.

It's because whether it's true or not, in the end it doesn't matter. The WF feat is massive either way. And the funny thing is, on top of all that, the WF feat isn't why Superman is rated so highly. It was (along with Doomsday Clock) the straw that broke the camel's back.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah, power creep has been an issue for a while. Even what most would classify B and C list characters have seen major bumps in power levels and feats. Feats are even starting to resemble some pre-crisis silliness at times. Sure, they're better fleshed out now because you can google shit, but a lot of them are no less ridiculous.

Thank you.I agree.
Personally, I often read Superman, Batman,Flash,JL related books.
But,I can't catch up with other books because I am not native.

I really don't know why people would still contest Superman's status as DC's #1 defender when the stakes are absolute..?

Doctor Manhattan, who had heavily studied the intricate superstructure of the multiverse/metaverse, outright stated that Superman is the "greatest antibody" in creation when it comes to dealing with any sort of threat(even one as powerful as himself.) Hell, the very fact that Manhattan thought it was fully possible for Superman to destroy him speaks volumes.

It is certainly not a new concept either... It just validates older scenes like this:
https://i.imgur.com/3nW7Pf0.jpg
Regarding the Trinity(ie. Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman):
"It's in their essential nature to dominate ANY setting..."
"The other two defer to Superman..."
"Of course they're going to let him take point. Experience tells them it's the most sensible thing to do."

How many times does Superman need to prove this for people to accept it? Honestly. 😬

I dont think your scan proves your statements though. Statements are nice and all. I would love to think Hulk is more powerful than the entire Celestial race and that Hulk is the most powerful being in existence but when there isn't much backing those claims up, they become just that, claims. Nice scans though.

🙂

It's like you didn't understand a word he said...

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think your scan proves your statements though. Statements are nice and all. I would love to think Hulk is more powerful than the entire Celestial race and that Hulk is the most powerful being in existence but when there isn't much backing those claims up, they become just that, claims. Nice scans though.

🙂

😂

So Galan is Wesley.....

Originally posted by -Pr-
It's like you didn't understand a word he said...

I understood it. It just doesn't work like that.