Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!I agree it is not over but this movement coupled with mail in ballots should soundly defeat him. I cannot wait to rub it in personally.
it really isn't I know Berlin well and he needs to have been majorly "off piste" for this shit to go down anyway. I hope, he's on the ropes but not down. We cannot let up. But we all have to be careful worldwide, timing and accuracy, the orange buffoon is not Ali, but we don't want to end up rope a doped.
Originally posted by Surtur
Minneapolis City Council president says if you are concerned about not having any police, that 'comes from a place of privilege'Lol you can't make this up.
Wow...thats pretty crazy. What, does she think violent crime will just cease to exist once the police are gone? Her comments almost make it seem like she wants people to just accept having crimes be comited against them. She doesn't inspire much confidence that there will be much in place to protect people. Thoughts?
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
What if we did not expect law enforcement to fix all of our societal failures?
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
So just a better trained police force, then?
No, dividing its responsibilities into specialized departments that are better equipped to respond to different problems. There would be some law enforcement officers, but their responsibilities would be different, and by extension, their training would have to be different too. But it is what they did in Camden, and it works.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
No, dividing its responsibilities into specialized departments that are better equipped to respond to different problems. There would be some law enforcement officers, but their responsibilities would be different, and by extension, their training would have to be different too. But it is what they did in Camden, and it works.
So will there be a force to respond to home invasions, investigate crime, respond to violent disturbances and deal with things like mass shooters? I feel this is the question that officials need to address, and so far they haven't. Especially the city council president. She seemed to imply that people should accept being victims of crime.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
No, dividing its responsibilities into specialized departments that are better equipped to respond to different problems. There would be some law enforcement officers, but their responsibilities would be different, and by extension, their training would have to be different too. But it is what they did in Camden, and it works.
Originally posted by emporerpants
So will there be a force to respond to home invasions, investigate crime, respond to violent disturbances and deal with things like mass shooters? I feel this is the question that officials need to address, and so far they haven't. Especially the city council president. She seemed to imply that people should accept being victims of crime.
Yes.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
That is why abolish is a misnomer. It is really restructure/reform.
I hope you are correct. The only thing I worry about is the fact that the council is saying they aren't going to piece the police back together or just restructure them, they want a more radical change than that. If they do just want to restructure, I feel they need to do a better job explaining that, and avoid saying the things some if them have been saying. An example of the wrong thing to say is in Surter's article.
But if they end up doing what you are saying Adam, then it could be helpful.
Originally posted by emporerpants
Wow...thats pretty crazy. What, does she think violent crime will just cease to exist once the police are gone? Her comments almost make it seem like she wants people to just accept having crimes be comited against them. She doesn't inspire much confidence that there will be much in place to protect people. Thoughts?
It seems ridiculous and if the excuse is going to be "they mean they want reform not to actually get rid of cops" they need to change their rhetoric and quickly.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Nfl bent the knee you will soon, boy.
Can we have one thread without the baiting and games? I'd prefer if at least one damn thread can be discussed seriously, respectfully, and in good faith. Just. ****ing. Once. In other words, get the bullshit and games out of here Quan. There are plenty of threads to bait and troll in. Please dont do it in here. Discuss this legit please.
Originally posted by emporerpantsMinneapolis took measures legally to enact change. It is their community and their right to do so. We will see going forward how effective it is in the future but if chauvin did not do what he did this would not be happening. Change is necessary.
Can we have one thread without the baiting and games? I'd prefer if at least one damn thread can be discussed seriously, respectfully, and in good faith. Just. ****ing. Once. In other words, get the bullshit and games out of here Quan. There are plenty of threads to bait and troll in. Please dont do it in here. Discuss this legit please.