ROTJ Luke vs. ROTS Yoda

canon versions.

force
sabers
all-out

We saw how he faired against Palpatine.

Zero reason to think hed fair much better against Yoda.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
We saw how he faired against Palpatine.

Zero reason to think hed fair much better against Yoda.

agreed, but to be fair Sidious caught him off guard with lightning and Luke wasn't aware of that ability which is DEFINITELY something Yoda should've taught the kid how to counter with his lightsaber at least lol

Originally posted by relentless1
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agreed, but to be fair Sidious caught him off guard with lightning and Luke wasn't aware of that ability which is DEFINITELY something Yoda should've taught the kid how to counter with his lightsaber at least lol

It shows he was still a novice compared to the elite masters.

I disagree with your reasoning. Luke threw his lightsaber away basically refusing to fight.

That being said, Yoda wins

Originally posted by xPRIMEx
I disagree with your reasoning. Luke threw his lightsaber away basically refusing to fight.

That being said, Yoda wins

According to the ROTJ novel he did try to deflect but couldnt. Its not canon but is Legends.

Regardless I doubt throwing away his Saber means he was just letting Palpatine fire away at him. Otherwise he wouldnt have begged his Dad to help him out.

Yoda wins

Originally posted by Darth Thor
We saw how he faired against Palpatine.

Zero reason to think hed fair much better against Yoda.

...And Yoda isn't going to spam lightning.

Point is he was dominated by him in the Force and I see little reason to believe he couldnt have ragdolled Luke instead.

But yeah the margin between this Palps and Yoda has probably increased, so there is that.

Yoda with difficulty.

Originally posted by Galan007
Tbf, RotJ Palpatine should be considerably above RotS Yoda.

...And Yoda isn't going to spam lightning.

In the force probably, but in an all-out fight I still put them pretty close.

Yeah, Palpatine had likely ceased trying to hone his lightsaber skills by that point.

But it's entirely possible that RotJ Palpatine wouldn't even need a saber to defeat Yoda, imo.

Depends on the setting, Palpatine would def have the edge in a place like the Grand Convocation Chamber but in something like Palpatine's office I'd probs give it to Yoda.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeah, Palpatine had likely ceased trying to hone his lightsaber skills by that point.

But it's entirely possible that RotJ Palpatine wouldn't even need a saber to defeat Yoda, imo.

So that means Snoke would beat Yoda lol

If Snoke's mastery of the dark side is truly on par with RotJ Palpatine's, then he should be a good bit above Yoda in the Force, yeah.

He's obviously not winning a lightsaber duel, though.

Originally posted by Galan007
If Snoke's mastery of the dark side is truly on par with RotJ Palpatine's, then he should be a good bit above Yoda in the Force, yeah.

He's obviously not winning a lightsaber duel, though.

No I meant because you're pointing out ROTJ Palpatine may not need a Saber to beat Yoda.

So then if Snoke is his equal, then logically he wouldn't need a saber either.

Granted though it'd be a Big Risk not having a saber to defend against even one strike. Especially so against Yoda.

Depends on the setting.

If it's tight quarters(which favors Yoda's size/agility), then not being able to defend with a saber could be a problem. If it's a more open field, like Snoke's throne room, then he should logically be able to own Yoda with the Force.

Yeah in tight quarters Snokes stock goes down a lot.

Nah I think Yoda smokes Snoke. Palpatine may not be a great Lightsaber combatant but I imagine he still has significant force augmented speed to keep his distance. Snoke on the other hand seems to struggle to even walk, and doesn't really have the speed feats to keep up with Yoda.

^ Ah yes I didnt think about speed.