Supposed Transphobic J.K Rowling Comments
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1227071
She’s also on Twitter addressing her views. Thoughts and opinions?
Supposed Transphobic J.K Rowling Comments
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1227071
She’s also on Twitter addressing her views. Thoughts and opinions?
I think she is extremely misguided. The phrasing of people who menstruate is supposed to be inclusive and specific. There are people that menstruate that do not want to be labeled as women, whose gender is not "woman", there's somewhat uncommon biological configurations where you can't clearly say whether a person is male or female in a biological sense, who might still menstruate, and then there is a lot of women, who do not menstruate, I suspect JK Rowling being one of them. So, it's a stupid hill to die on, it doesn't help people, if anything it furthers negative sentiment that's sadly very common in the UK and I wish she'd use her platform better, but she's a shitty Blairite anyways, so I don't expect anything particularly insightful or humane from her.
when I read to this part I lol'd
“I decided not to kill myself because I wanted to know how Harry's story ended,” one user wrote. “For a long time, that was all that kept me alive. Until I met my husband who helped me learn to love myself and to want to live. You just insulted him to my face. I hate you.”
tl;dr- "you saved my life. I hate you". 😂
Originally posted by Silent Master
We really are in the middle of a massive mental health crisis.
We are, there’s massive problems with depression and suicide, PTSD, burn out, and there’s not enough effective help given to people.
I don’t want to assume, but I get the feeling that perhaps you are talking about trans people being the crisis, that seems like a common view. But there I would disagree, of course many trans people suffer heavily from dysphoria, but the added understanding of the existence of trans people and the attempts to help them, is not a problem, even though it may appear that way to people who hadn’t have to deal with the topic before. It’s a bit like with homosexuality or even autism, we don’t have a pandemic of those things, we just live in a somewhat more accepting and knowledgeable so the people who used to suffer in silence are visible now and their needs somewhat addressed.
They should, with their consent, get the counseling they need , I assume you can see how certain types of authoritarian counseling can be actively harmful to their mental health.
Broadly accepted treatment is of course also what falls under gender reassignment, and puberty blockers to give minors the choice for more significant interventions when they are of age. On a societal level acceptance is really important, as well as on a individual and familial level, not being accepted by your family is one of the most harmful things.
Originally posted by Silent MasterThere are studies that suggest that gender reassignment surgery is successful, at least.
Are their any peer reviewed studies that prove gender reassignment and puberty blockers are more successful than mental health counselling?
Expert bodies seem to generally be leaning into the direction of supporting gender reassignment in many cases anyways. I personally am not qualified in the field, nor deeply in the matter, I'm sure there is debate as is often the case in science.
But I'd approach it from a more normative aspect as well in that I pose myself the question "is it right to me to exclude people from gender reassignment surgery, that seem to desperately want it", and at least for me the answer is no, and I'd go even further and say that it is a duty of a society to aid them in that matter, including financially, but of course, that too, is contentious.
I think we got a bit away from the topic of JK Rowling's tweets about equating "people who menstruate" with "women", though.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Are their any peer reviewed studies that prove gender reassignment and puberty blockers are more successful than mental health counselling?
If you mean conversion therapy, it seems like that is actively more harmful, yes. Same as it was for gay people.
Were any of the studies peer reviewed and were they long term studies. because someone feeling better immediately after getting what they want doesn't mean that they'll feel the same in 5, 10 or 15 years. or that other treatments wouldn't have been more successful in long term results.
If you feel it's the duty of a society to aid people, shouldn't that aid be in the form of what is best for the person's long term health?
Originally posted by StyleTime
Depends on what you mean by mental health counseling, as gender affirming medical treatment("gender reassignment"😉 is considered part of counseling.If you mean conversion therapy, it seems like that is actively more harmful, yes. Same as it was for gay people.
No, I don't mean conversion therapy. I mean actual mental health counseling. like what anyone that has any other mental issues should seek.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Were any of the studies peer reviewed and were they long term studies. because someone feeling better immediately after getting what they want doesn't mean that they'll feel the same in 5, 10 or 15 years. or that other treatments wouldn't have been more successful in long term results.If you feel it's the duty of a society to aid people, shouldn't that aid be in the form of what is best for the person's long term health?
Of course, long term mental health is an important aspect, of course acute mental health issues must also be considered, and other factors as well. But we won't ever get long term data if we don't allow gender reassignment surgeries, and we shouldn't give an undue weight to the status quo, both doing and not doing gender reassignment surgery are decisions and both have potentially negative effects that need to be considered.
What is your stance on gender reassignment surgery?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Who said anything about not allowing them?As long as it's just a personal issue, then it's their body, their choice. but if you or they want make it a duty of society then society has the right to set rules and standards.
Yeah, I agree.
There are people that think we should outlaw it, I didn’t mean to suggest you did, which I think can be seen by me specifically asking what your stance is.