Tommy Robinson left speechless after having Racism explained to him.

Started by Darth Thor8 pages

Originally posted by Silent Master
Leaving aside the racist part, since IT disagrees with that assessment and I don't feel like doing the research needed to prove which of you is wrong.

Are you saying that we shouldn't listen to his opinion because what happened to his niece makes him emotionally compromised?

No. Im saying hes a Hate Spreader. Ive listened to him before in like 10 minute debates. An hour is a lot though for a hate speech.

My point was if someone is spreading hate towards blacks because their niece was raped by a black guy, you gotta understand they are emotionally compromised. Not that we should take hate speeches seriously in any case.

His hate towards Muslim people is a similar thing to racism. It has nothing to do with him just reading the Quran one day and realising anyone following this book must be evil and stopped.

IT disagrees with that opinion, if you're trying to convince him not to listen to Tom. then just repeating yourself that he's a "hate spreader" doesn't seem like a good plan. you should give examples of things Tom has said and explain why sed examples aren't true and are in-fact just racism.

So seen first few minutes. Its clearly not a hate rant. And he apologies for his rant video which got people sparked up.

Seems like hes saying the racism part of the police brutality is being overblown. Its an opinion I can listen to at least.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Leaving aside the racist part, since IT disagrees with that assessment and I don't feel like doing the research needed to prove which of you is wrong.

Are you saying that we shouldn't listen to his opinion because what happened to his niece makes him emotionally compromised?

Sounds like that’s the case. If he’s painting an entire group of people with a brush based off of a single personal experience with a small group of them then his opinion is stained and not based in logic but emotion and likely anger. Not an opinion worth listening to.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
@ IT: Did you just use the same argument on me that I used against you?

About the being victim being an excuse to spread hate? I already pointed out the hypocrisy there, you didnt have to just do the opposite.

Interesting so hes not racist yet he spreads hate towards Muslims (interestingly not Pakistanis), which is made up of a whole load of minorities in the U.K., and he is against the BLM movement.

If he stood up for equal rights for black people, then that would prove hes not a racist. Interesting he doesnt given he supposedly has black friends.

But he is clearly motivated by hate. He not an intellectual like Akala.

Anyway will listen to his rant when I get the chance. I dont mind listening to both sides of an argument. But its not like ive listened to Akala for an hour on why BLM does matter!

Yeah to show you stupid your stance on it is.

You need to get it right , he hates the faith Islam and what it preaches not all Muslims as he states in videos where he’s stood alongside his Muslim mates.

You don’t have to stand for something to prove your not a racist ffs. Hardly anybody goes protesting for all the abused and raped kids that are in the thousands in the uk by people of wealth and power. Does that mean all the people not standing up for the kids are pedos.

Again you’re talking nonsense and are not well informed he’s not once said he’s against the BLM but the double standards and other agendas been abused by the so called BLM protesters.

No he’s motivated by facts and actions. Example as to why, Lee Rigby got his head cut off in public by Islamic extremist yet the public wasn’t allowed to protest because it was a offensive and racist to Muslims yet if your any of race than white you can protest about whatever and whenever you want.

Again who said BL don’t matter? Not me and neither does TR.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
No. Im saying hes a Hate Spreader. Ive listened to him before in like 10 minute debates. An hour is a lot though for a hate speech.

My point was if someone is spreading hate towards blacks because their niece was raped by a black guy, you gotta understand they are emotionally compromised. Not that we should take hate speeches seriously in any case.

His hate towards Muslim people is a similar thing to racism. It has nothing to do with him just reading the Quran one day and realising anyone following this book must be evil and stopped.

So 10 minute sound bites is what you’re basing stuff off? 😂 actually to listen to everything said.

Another lie, he’s not spreading hate towards blacks at all . He condemns what happened to GF and the the actions of the police.

He hates THE Muslim that groomed his niece and not all Muslims like he actually states in a interview on YouTube with james English.

You’re just basically a pawn of the main stream media.

Originally posted by BackFire
Sounds like that’s the case. If he’s painting an entire group of people with a brush based off of a single personal experience with a small group of them then his opinion is stained and not based in logic but emotion and likely anger. Not an opinion worth listening to.


Why I have heard it is that He is TRYING to Point Out a Certain Small Group that is Doing some REALLY BAD SHIT aka Kidnapping and grooming children to be Sex Slaves, and the UK/EURO Govs Turing a Blind Eye to it. Cause Muh Immgration!

That Small Group Needs to have their Balls Cut off and sown on to their faces.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]
Why I have heard it is that He is TRYING to Point Out a Certain Small Group that is Doing some REALLY BAD SHIT aka Kidnapping and grooming children to be Sex Slaves, and the UK/EURO Govs Turing a Blind Eye to it. Cause Muh Immgration!

That Small Group Needs to have their Balls Cut off and sown on to their faces. [/B]

👆

And the point about his BLM protestors rant as he explains isn’t about people of colour or GF’s death it’s about BLM protestors f*cking up war memorials and cenotaphs dedicated to those who served their country for the freedom of speech they are now using.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
So 10 minute sound bites is what you’re basing stuff off? 😂 actually to listen to everything said.

Another lie, he’s not spreading hate towards blacks at all . He condemns what happened to GF and the the actions of the police.

He hates THE Muslim that groomed his niece and not all Muslims like he actually states in a interview on YouTube with james English.

You’re just basically a pawn of the main stream media.

Calm the F down, I said im watching the video.

And yes he does hate on Muslims as people. Just watch the OP video. Hes trying to make out its Muslims who do grooming. To which Akala pointed out the MEDIA Brainwashing (ironically to your point) of that kind of thinking.

Its not a Muslim thing. Its a group of criminal and racist Pakistanis who are doing that. But hes trying to make it a Muslim thing, because you know, hes not a racist.

Having a Muslim stood next to him is just a way to fool people like you into his propaganda. I mean logically why would a Muslim support hate on Islam? Does that make any logical sense. Think please.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Calm the F down, I said im watching the video.

lol

All i know is anyone who denies the muslim grooming gang problem in the uk is a big ol' piece of dog shit 🙂

and if such a person did deny it and downplay the muslim aspect, they'd have no room to ever comment on police brutality in the USA and racism.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Calm the F down, I said im watching the video.

And yes he does hate on Muslims as people. Just watch the OP video. Hes trying to make out its Muslims who do grooming. To which Akala pointed out the MEDIA Brainwashing (ironically to your point) of that kind of thinking.

Its not a Muslim thing. Its a group of criminal and racist Pakistanis who are doing that. But hes trying to make it a Muslim thing, because you know, hes not a racist.

Having a Muslim stood next to him is just a way to fool people like you into his propaganda. I mean logically why would a Muslim support hate on Islam? Does that make any logical sense. Think please.


Stop lying then you turd.
He has Muslim friends ffs along with black mates. Are you dense, it is Muslims who have been doing it in gangs. Just watch any podcast by James English who interviews ex police officers and care workers who were involved in dealing with these grooming gangs. Start with Sonia poulton and Maggie Oliver ones, Sonia worked on the massive grooming gang in Rotherham.

You are so blind it’s laughable, the Muslims who support him and protest with are against the grooming gangs and Islamic extremists the same view he has.

You can’t watch that video and say anything he says is wrong. He flat out says what happened to GF is wrong and what’s happened to other black people is wrong and deserve justice. But like most you’ll try to twist stuff to fit your agenda.

This guy was protecting world war 2 monuments and nazi saluting as he chanted there's only one Tommy Robinson at the Cenotaph on Saturday.

Did and do laugh...

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!

This guy was protecting world war 2 monuments and nazi saluting as he chanted there's only one Tommy Robinson at the Cenotaph on Saturday.

Did and do laugh...

And that proves what exactly ? That TR is exactly like him? Because he’s a racist nazi that means everybody defending memorials was the same ?

The BLM supporters shouting kill all whites and as one woman says “kill all white babies” as the video shows. that means all BLM supports are the same ?

I challenge you to watch that video and prove me wrong on what I said.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
And that proves what exactly ? That TR is exactly like him? Because he’s a racist nazi that means everybody defending memorials was the same ?

The BLM supporters shouting kill all whites and as one woman says “kill all white babies” as the video shows. that means all BLM supports are the same ?

I challenge you to watch that video and prove me wrong on what I said.

Well said. 👆

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Stop lying then you turd.
He has Muslim friends ffs along with black mates. Are you dense, it is Muslims who have been doing it in gangs. Just watch any podcast by James English who interviews ex police officers and care workers who were involved in dealing with these grooming gangs. Start with Sonia poulton and Maggie Oliver ones, Sonia worked on the massive grooming gang in Rotherham.

You are so blind it’s laughable, the Muslims who support him and protest with are against the grooming gangs and Islamic extremists the same view he has.

You can’t watch that video and say anything he says is wrong. He flat out says what happened to GF is wrong and what’s happened to other black people is wrong and deserve justice. But like most you’ll try to twist stuff to fit your agenda.

Right firstly, I was a bit argumentative, but youre just outright freaking out. Thats the effect being a Tommy Robinson supporter has on you. Because he preaches hate, so being his supporter you gotta freak out and hate too.

Secondly Muslims should and do stand up to grooming gangs, if they do that alongside Tommy then fine, whatever, a bit crazy and self hating standing alongside that turd, but at least the cause is good.

But Muslims should stand up against Grooming and Terrorism. And all the peaceful ones do tbh. Given They usually catch these guys when given intel from the Muslim community.

But him having Muslim friends is outright propaganda youre falling for. No self respecting Muslim would be his friend/supporter of his when he outright hates on Islam. Spreading propaganda towards Islam and Muslims as a people. I have a video of his debate with Piers Morgan if youre going to pretend he doesnt.

Third im 20 minutes into the video, and it started out with facts, then it became facts with laughable hypocrisy (BLM is a hate group, as if hes not a hater) and now its just turning into outright lies and a propaganda video.

Claiming you have more chance being shot by police as a white man is an outright lie, and the facts hes given in the video show thats not true. More white men were killed but %s still matter.

And whats with the showing black people condemning the riots. EVERYONE condemns the riots. Whose defending the riots, looting and killings? We all know George Floyds brother apple put against them. This isnt some new insight hes giving.

He played the video of the black ex-cop speaking out against black peoples responses, but id like to (and will check out) the rest of his video as he said hes going to move on to White people in a minute. So I suspect hes showing half his message for propaganda purposes.

He also seems to be confused about what Black Lives Matter means, by going on about blacks killing blacks. Black Lives Matter no matter whose doing the killing. Jeez facepalm

Youre saying he condemned the killing of George Floyd. Wow isnt he a decent human being for doing that? The whole world left and right universally condemned that killing.

But if the issue is police brutality and not racism, then why not protest against Police Brutality? Hey, why not stand by the BLM Protestors protesting against that?

I mean if its okay for Muslims to stand by him, then surely he can stand by peaceful BLM protestors against Police Brutality right?

But he doesnt. All hes interested in is defending whites. Hes never fought for a cause defending minorities or fought for good causes where the white establishment are the perpetrators. His whole schtick is Whites are the victims.

And then im guessing this whole video leads to justifying him calling to defend the statues in London. Thats where his true colours will show. He doesnt give a shit about defending the statues. Thats the police job, and if police needed help on that he could work with them (not that they would want his help).

Nope that was all about causing riots between white supremacists like himself and black people. And thats exactly what he achieved by calling for that, whilst sneakily not showing up himself.

Originally posted by Surtur
All i know is anyone who denies the muslim grooming gang problem in the uk is a big ol' piece of dog shit 🙂

and if such a person did deny it and downplay the muslim aspect, they'd have no room to ever comment on police brutality in the USA and racism.

By all means prove it by showing me how Malaysian Muslims In U.K. and Europe are behind grooming.

Show me which Indian Muslims are doing that. Show me Iraqi muslims. Show me White muslims.

Show me how the massive 14% minority Muslims in Singapore are carrying out grooming gangs there.

If you cant show me any of the above then you have by default proven that youre the one who has no right to comment on double standards and lies from the Left.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
Stop lying then you turd.
He has Muslim friends ffs along with black mates. Are you dense, it is Muslims who have been doing it in gangs. Just watch any podcast by James English who interviews ex police officers and care workers who were involved in dealing with these grooming gangs. Start with Sonia poulton and Maggie Oliver ones, Sonia worked on the massive grooming gang in Rotherham.

You are so blind it’s laughable, the Muslims who support him and protest with are against the grooming gangs and Islamic extremists the same view he has.

You can’t watch that video and say anything he says is wrong. He flat out says what happened to GF is wrong and what’s happened to other black people is wrong and deserve justice. But like most you’ll try to twist stuff to fit your agenda.

Oh and what hes also completely ignoring is the whole protests now are not just over the killing over George Floyd. Its a few incidents including a non-violent one: Amy Cooper. Telling an educated black guy to shut up or shell call the police and tell them theres a black man attacking her.

She did that smiling.

But he just denies theres any racism at all to blacks people. Only poor white people are the victims of racism Lmao.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Right firstly, I was a bit argumentative, but youre just outright freaking out. Thats the effect being a Tommy Robinson supporter has on you. Because he preaches hate, so being his supporter you gotta freak out and hate too.

Secondly Muslims should and do stand up to grooming gangs, if they do that alongside Tommy then fine, whatever, a bit crazy and self hating standing alongside that turd, but at least the cause is good.

But Muslims should stand up against Grooming and Terrorism. And all the peaceful ones do tbh. Given They usually catch these guys when given intel from the Muslim community.

But him having Muslim friends is outright propaganda youre falling for. No self respecting Muslim would be his friend/supporter of his when he outright hates on Islam. Spreading propaganda towards Islam and Muslims as a people. I have a video of his debate with Piers Morgan if youre going to pretend he doesnt.

Third im 20 minutes into the video, and it started out with facts, then it became facts with laughable hypocrisy (BLM is a hate group, as if hes not a hater) and now its just turning into outright lies and a propaganda video.

Claiming you have more chance being shot by police as a white man is an outright lie, and the facts hes given in the video show thats not true. More white men were killed but %s still matter.

And whats with the showing black people condemning the riots. EVERYONE condemns the riots. Whose defending the riots, looting and killings? We all know George Floyds brother apple put against them. This isnt some new insight hes giving.

He played the video of the black ex-cop speaking out against black peoples responses, but id like to (and will check out) the rest of his video as he said hes going to move on to White people in a minute. So I suspect hes showing half his message for propaganda purposes.

He also seems to be confused about what Black Lives Matter means, by going on about blacks killing blacks. Black Lives Matter no matter whose doing the killing. Jeez facepalm

Youre saying he condemned the killing of George Floyd. Wow isnt he a decent human being for doing that? The whole world left and right universally condemned that killing.

But if the issue is police brutality and not racism, then why not protest against Police Brutality? Hey, why not stand by the BLM Protestors protesting against that?

I mean if its okay for Muslims to stand by him, then surely he can stand by peaceful BLM protestors against Police Brutality right?

But he doesnt. All hes interested in is defending whites. Hes never fought for a cause defending minorities or fought for good causes where the white establishment are the perpetrators. His whole schtick is Whites are the victims.

And then im guessing this whole video leads to justifying him calling to defend the statues in London. Thats where his true colours will show. He doesnt give a shit about defending the statues. Thats the police job, and if police needed help on that he could work with them (not that they would want his help).

Nope that was all about causing riots between white supremacists like himself and black people. And thats exactly what he achieved by calling for that, whilst sneakily not showing up himself.

Don’t talk shit you acted exactly the same and are now trying to backtrack trying to be the good guy.

So another pisspoor excuse, gotcha.

You’re feelings and emotions are irrelevant to me.

You mean the interview where Piers Morgan scream like a girl not allowing TR to talk. Which is rich coming PM a guy who hacked phones of parents grieving amongst other things. Also TR actually states why he has a problem with the Quran and how it’s worded against non believers of Islam.

The majority of BLM is a hate group, their actions prove it. So killing , stabbing and beating people up isn’t hate. Lmao gtfo with that shit.

It’s all facts that left/liberal hypocrites like to Ignore, that’s what he’s highlighting. Because you say the facts ain’t true don’t make it so. People like you can’t help but lie.

Again he never once us confused , he’s pointing out the fake double standards around the movement and it’s supports and it’s fake supporters.

Your Emo feelings aren’t a interest to me. You’re only showing your own double standards. You claim he outright Hayes blacks, then when its show he doesn’t you get upset lol.

So you think media let ignorant sheep would be ok with him standing with them lol. His whole reaction stems from the defacing of war memorials of Churchill and memorials of soldiers of all races in both uk and America.

That because whites are the easiest target to blame or show any pride about. Can you go marching saying your proud to be white in the uk ? No you can’t and even if the ain’t a racist your classed as one because white=racist automatically as the video shows.

Haha that’s the biggest excuse you’ve give yet. So you’re condemning him for defending memorials dedicated to those who died for our freedom. I can guarantee you’re a piece of shit who defeated them.

I get you’re to stupid to understand anything. You try to make out he lied about GF dying and is now scared. He constantly called out and gone up against terrorist. A bunch of mouthy fake rioters isn’t something you’d need to lie and run from.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh and what hes also completely ignoring is the whole protests now are not just over the killing over George Floyd. Its a few incidents including a non-violent one: Amy Cooper. Telling an educated black guy to shut up or shell call the police and tell them theres a black man attacking her.

She did that smiling.

But he just denies theres any racism at all to blacks people . Only poor white people are the victims of racism Lmao.

absolute bullshit. The protesters were wrecking stuff and beating up people from the start in the name of GF.

Just like how they are protesting about the Aussie women who was shot dead in her home in America by a black cop. She called the cops for help ffs , but yeah no of the protester know or care about that. But a women being a racist ******* in the park is a ok reason to kill people right.