‘I want my vote back’: Trump-voting family stunned after Canadian mother detained by Ice
The family of a Canadian national who supported Donald Trump’s plans for mass deportations of immigrants say they are feeling betrayed after federal agents recently detained the woman in California while she interviewed for permanent US residency – and began working to expel her from the country.
“We feel totally blindsided,” Cynthia Olivera’s husband – US citizen and self-identified Trump voter Francisco Olivera – told the California news station KGTV. “I want my vote back.” -snip
Another example of Trumpers only caring about Trump's horrible policies because they were personally affected and not just the people they don't like. Womp, womp.
Okay, let's be real about this. Let's say that Robin williams, upon realizing and accepting what his condition would do to him, did not take his own life. Let's say his attitude was "I I have this condition that will impair my cognitive skills greatly. But you know what? I'm not giving up. I'm going to fight it. I know the odds are incredibly against me, but I'm not going down without a fight." Now, be honest, would he be praised as a hero? As being brave and strong in the face of adversity?
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Okay, let's be real about this. Let's say that Robin williams, upon realizing and accepting what his condition would do to him, did not take his own life. Let's say his attitude was "I I have this condition that will impair my cognitive skills greatly. But you know what? I'm not giving up. I'm going to fight it. I know the odds are incredibly against me, but I'm not going down without a fight." Now, be honest, would he be praised as a hero? As being brave and strong in the face of adversity?
Im actually against suicide. But lets be real theres no fighting Alzheimers.
Youre also assuming he was in his right state of mind when he made the decision to top himself.
You can have certain values without being judgmental.
Originally posted by Darth Thorthat's not really an answer to my question. It's a hypothetical situation, you're not answering my question because you know it will prove my point.
Im actually against suicide. But lets be real theres no fighting Alzheimers.Youre also assuming he was in his right state of mind when he made the decision to top himself.
You can have certain values without being judgmental.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
Okay, let's be real about this. Let's say that Robin williams, upon realizing and accepting what his condition would do to him, did not take his own life. Let's say his attitude was "I I have this condition that will impair my cognitive skills greatly. But you know what? I'm not giving up. I'm going to fight it. I know the odds are incredibly against me, but I'm not going down without a fight." Now, be honest, would he be praised as a hero? As being brave and strong in the face of adversity?
Lewy Body dementia has no cure nor treatment. Robin had it as well as Estelle Getty from The Golden Girls.
I don’t see Robin as heroic for ending his life. He was depressed and sick. I think he sped up the inevitable. He’s neither brave nor cowardly for ending his own life on his own terms, IMO.
I should clarify I 100% support suicide for terminally ill or progressively ill people. Jack Kevorkian had the right idea. It’s anyone’s right to die. Those who say nay are wrong, IMO.
Just like abortion goes. “Her body, her choice.”
Suicide is their life and their choice. Heroics be damned.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
that's not really an answer to my question. It's a hypothetical situation, you're not answering my question because you know it will prove my point.
Lol I wasnt avoiding anything. I just found your question kinda irrelevant.
But to Answer it - I dont know how people would see him if he decided to fight back. Most likely they would just have sympathy for him as he deteriorates.
Originally posted by RJ 2.0
that's not really an answer to my question. It's a hypothetical situation, you're not answering my question because you know it will prove my point.
There's no cure for dementia, it's a literal death sentence and an often horrible one at that as it destroys your mind and body over time. Some people are luckier** than others. Williams also had clinical depression on top of that. So who knows where his mind was when he did it.
**My wife's grandmother had dementia for 20 or so years and it was a very slow decline for her, she could still walk and communicate until the very end of her life, she just had a 3-5 minute memory span. While my mother fell off a cliff in a handful of years with it comparatively speaking. She's still alive, but she's not really living. Bed ridden and can't communicate, no way to exist imo.
As for suicide being cowardice, it depends on the what and why, imo. If you have something like terminal cancer and it's going to destroy you, I don't think it's cowardly to safe yourself (and family?) from a slow drawn out painful death. While if your top yourself because you want to avoid punishment for some crime you committed, yeah, that's the coward's way out.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
Why does RFK jr always look like his face was over-sharpened in Photoshop?
Woah, don't insult the man, he and Trump effectively brought back measles to the US after it was eradicated decades ago. That's a feat!
U.S. measles cases hit highest level in 33 years, CDC reports
The U.S. has reported 1,288 measles cases this year — the highest number in 33 years, according to the latest figures from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The last time the U.S. saw more measles cases was in 1992, eight years before the disease was declared eliminated in the country. -snip