Originally posted by SquallX
You do know the FBI has these type of statistics right?
It's Whirly - just ignore him. He's creating a ton of sock accounts and trolling in anticipation of mass-bans. Can't wack-a-mole 30+ accounts and there's plausible deniability if he has many.
As far as FBI stats, black crimes are underrepresented due to the distrust the black community has towards the police. Crimes are committed against he people you live near and with which is why crimes are often race correlated. The distrust of police by the black community is a widely known fact. In fact, many large-city police deparatments, in an effort to combat crime and also help the black communities, started community outreach programs between the police and the local populace to help fix that distrust and start solving crimes.
There are multiple reasons for distrust:
Racism stereorypes about police (some true)
Stop and frisk racism (this is true and is one of the greatest examples of racism from law enforcement)
Drug War and the racism of the Drug War (the stats are overwhelming on this one and a UHC + ending the Drug War + treating drug addiction like the medical and mental health problem it is would be one of the greatest things we could do for the black and Latino populations)
Black Culture - anti-snitch, anti-traitors to your people, etc. Italian Americans had this same problem back in the 1920s-1980s. It's not an unknown problem.
https://www.opportunityagenda.org/explore/resources-publications/new-sensibility/part-iv
A YouGov/Huffington Post survey conducted in July 2015 showed that when asked, “Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of police officers in your community?” 65 percent said “favorable” and 25 percent said “unfavorable” with the balance responding “unsure.” Again, the racial differences are extreme: 70 percent of whites said “favorable” compared to only 43 percent of blacks and 49 percent of Latinos. Fifty-seven percent of Democrats said “favorable” compared to 81 percent of Republicans.
Because KMC is still broken, I cannot edit my above post.
But this was the visual representation of what I feel best represents black-distrust of Police:
Edit - I am every bit the skeptic of police engagement as anyone. I strongly distrust the police. Every conversation with police should be done with extreme caution. Never interview with the police about anything ever unless you have a lawyer. They do all sorts of evil and manipulative tactics such as tricking you into interviewing about something completely unrelated and then talking to you about something else where you are a suspect or they think you might be a suspect. Anything you say will be used against you even if you are 100% innocent. The flimsiest of statements can be used to twist you into a corner where the prosecutors use that to get a conviction.
Don't. Talk. To. The. Police. Unless you're reporting a crime and have evidence of it.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Don't. Talk. To. The. Police. Unless you're reporting a crime and have evidence of it.
Even then you still have to be careful. A friend of mine almost got ran over by a car a few years ago literally right outside of a police station, so he noted the license plate and headed inside to report it to an officer, upon telling the guy on the front desk he was completely uninterested until my friend mentioned that he had written the license plate on the wall outside, the man immediately shot up out of his seat and went to inspect the writing on the wall, he lost interest when he saw that my friend had written on the wall using a small stone and not a marker or pen, he turned to my friend and told him that if he had written on the wall in pen or marker he would have been arrested for vandalism.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53145201Poor white people. So oppressed in the world today.
To whoever is behind this:
Originally posted by samhain
Even then you still have to be careful. A friend of mine almost got ran over by a car a few years ago literally right outside of a police station, so he noted the license plate and headed inside to report it to an officer, upon telling the guy on the front desk he was completely uninterested until my friend mentioned that he had written the license plate on the wall outside, the man immediately shot up out of his seat and went to inspect the writing on the wall, he lost interest when he saw that my friend had written on the wall using a small stone and not a marker or pen, he turned to my friend and told him that if he had written on the wall in pen or marker he would have been arrested for vandalism.
Too true. Even reporting crimes against you, you must be careful.
I think part of it is police get so used to dealing with criminals all day long - the lying when caught, stealing, violence, depravity, etc. - that they start treating all humans with disdain. It's hard to keep your humanistic wits about you when interfacing with anyone in the public.
This is part of why I think we should have national level regulations that support the people in blue. Psych evals, health check-ups, family counseling, etc.
People like to quote the "54% of all homicides are committed by less than 13% of the population" statistic, usually out of racism. But who is repeating the 40% of cop families are victims of domestic abuse statistic?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Too true. Even reporting crimes against you, you must be careful.I think part of it is police get so used to dealing with criminals all day long - the lying when caught, stealing, violence, depravity, etc. - that they start treating all humans with disdain. It's hard to keep your humanistic wits about you when interfacing with anyone in the public.
This is part of why I think we should have national level regulations that support the people in blue. Psych evals, health check-ups, family counseling, etc.
People like to quote the "54% of all homicides are committed by less than 13% of the population" statistic, usually out of racism. But who is repeating the 40% of cop families are victims of domestic abuse statistic?
Absolutely
Originally posted by dadudemon
Too true. Even reporting crimes against you, you must be careful.I think part of it is police get so used to dealing with criminals all day long - the lying when caught, stealing, violence, depravity, etc. - that they start treating all humans with disdain. It's hard to keep your humanistic wits about you when interfacing with anyone in the public.
This is part of why I think we should have national level regulations that support the people in blue. Psych evals, health check-ups, family counseling, etc.
People like to quote the "54% of all homicides are committed by less than 13% of the population" statistic, usually out of racism. But who is repeating the 40% of cop families are victims of domestic abuse statistic?
I can agree with your first part. My toughest part being a soldier was after a tour from Afghanistan. I needed to readjust being back, that not every noise was someone trying to hurt me or my battle buddies. I didn’t have a true psych evaluation, but I had plenty of people to talk to whenever I needed it.
I also think the most important part, is that men in general have been designed by the world to be tough and strong, and showing weakness like talking to someone is frown upon. Especially in the type of jobs where you need to show a tough.
As someone who grew up in a very racially diverse area of South London and is a member of the supporters club for one of the most racist sets of fans in football, but not so much the locals these days. Thirty years ago even much of the local Turkish community were Millwall fans, but I digress. I have seen the strides the clubs have made to kick racism out of football. In the bigger cities this is working, in smaller cities where the local club fanbase like my own experience with Millwall are third or more generation white locals. Round Millwall this is not so much the case now, as the demographic in that part of South London is gentrified for wealthy whites or estates where white working class are a minority. Racism has no place in football or life tbh.
Originally posted by meep-meep
@squallxPersonally I used earplugs daily for awhile. It helps a bit brother.
Silence does help. One thing I used to do, was every other weekends, when the guys were partying and getting face drunk, I used to stay in my room in the barracks, but natures sound audio on repeat for an hour or two, turn the lights and all electrics off, close my eyes and just breathe. Sometimes I fell asleep, sometimes I didn’t, but I was felt better.
It’s funny how people here others saying all lives matter or white lives matter whilst steaming for equity. I guess it boils down to not actually wanting equality and just want to be treated better than everyone else.
Well, an all lives matter slogan would actually be promoting equality. As it all lives
People do know the whole All Lives Matter is bullshit right? If given the choice between your life or some stranger, 9/10 you’ll choose your life first. Or some stranger vs your family’s.
Only selected group of jobs or a small percentage of people would put others before them.
So shouldn’t it really be My Life Matters first, then others?
Originally posted by truejedi
One problem i see is that technically, a case such as breonna taylor wouldn't be considered a homocide by police yet in those statistics, right? And george floyd wasn't considered one until protestors forced their hand.(Just asking, not trying to be all gotcha about it...)
I don’t know much about the Taylor, so I can’t speak on that. But Llyod had everything to do with shitty and corrupt cops. Not racism.
In this day in age, Cops are more likely to be corrupt than racist.