Replace Hulk in these fights!!

Originally posted by h1a8
There us no such thing as RL logic. It's logic period. It governs ALL DEBATING. Adamantium doesnt disobey the laws of physics. If you disagree, then which laws does it not obey. Rulk has been stabbed in the heart and greatly injured many times.Yet he always appear freshly healed. I believe that Rulk will be fine after being stabbed once in the head.

Periodic Law.

When Wolverine slashed Rulk's eyes out, it took him a good while to heal:

He was blind for a few issues after this. As I am sure you are aware.

Edit: He got his sight back a couple of issues later:

Not before being told he would die of internal bleeding:

Btw, that sai is not vibranium or adamantium.

ADDITIONALLY, Red Ghost crushed his heart, and it took him a while to heal. Certainly long enough to collect his victims and bodies, and escape:

Certainly long enough for a forum win.

I know I'm not part of this discussion, but certainly we're not trying to argue that Wolverine's claws are beholden to RL physics, right?

Originally posted by Galan007
I know I'm not part of this discussion, but certainly we're not trying to argue that Wolverine's claws are beholden to RL physics, right?

No more than Castle's shotgun.

Originally posted by Galan007
I know I'm not part of this discussion, but certainly we're not trying to argue that Wolverine's claws are beholden to RL physics, right?

The argument is that they never broke the law of physics in comics. They cut through durable stuff because they are harder than the things they cut while being sufficiently sharp.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
ADDITIONALLY, Red Ghost crushed his heart, and it took him a while to heal. Certainly long enough to collect his victims and bodies, and escape:

Certainly long enough for a forum win.

Yet you posted a scan of Rulk being stabbed in the heart and he was completely fine. Variable showings.

The sternum is not the heart.....

Moreover, your statement said he ALWAYS appears freshly healed

So either you don't know what you're talking about (incomplete knowledge) or your statement is false.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The sternum is not the heart.....

Moreover, your statement said he ALWAYS appears freshly healed

So either you don't know what you're talking about (incomplete knowledge) or your statement is false.

Good debaters are not nitpickers. Argue against the spirit of my argument (look past the figurative talk). "Always" isn't the key. The key is "multiple times". Rulk almost always appears freshly new from issue to issue, even after taking immense damage.

Originally posted by cdtm
No more than Castle's shotgun.

1) That's not a shotgun, dumbass.

2) How exactly is that violating RL physics again?

Originally posted by h1a8
The heart is behind the sternum.

Good debaters are not nitpickers. Argue against the spirit of my argument (look past the figurative talk). "Always" isn't the key. The key is "multiple times". Rulk almost always appears freshly new from issue to issue, even after taking immense damage.

Except I just posted two times where he didn't.

Here is a third:

He was laid out for a while.

Then with Namor:

After that, in the next issue, he hadn't healed fully and needed support:

So that is MULTIPLE times, where he ISN'T freshly new, after taking immense damage.

So you are moving the goalposts from 'always' to 'almost always'.

Against Worthy Thing:

He was hit, and it was daytime before he woke up:

Against Hulk (I already posted most of the fight in this thread), he was literally one-shotted and couldn't get up:
https://i.postimg.cc/PfV0hDsv/RCO021-2.jpg

Against Storm, She-Hulk and Invisible Woman:

So that's around 7 times, I count. Rulk's HF isn't like the Hulk's.

And I posted scans of Frank, a human, stabbing Rulk in the STERNUM. Not the heart. Had it gone all the way through (with a longer knife), maybe you would have a point. But it didn't, so you don't.

Post scans of him taking massive amounts of damage, and being fine from it. Besides, your statements make no sense. How can something 'always' be true, when as you state, we have 'variable' showings?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Except I just posted two times where he didn't.

Here is a third:

He was laid out for a while.

Then with Namor:

After that, in the next issue, he hadn't healed fully and needed support:

So that is MULTIPLE times, where he ISN'T freshly new, after taking immense damage.

So you are moving the goalposts from 'always' to 'almost always'.

Against Worthy Thing:

He was hit, and it was daytime before he woke up:

Against Hulk (I already posted most of the fight in this thread), he was literally one-shotted and couldn't get up:
https://i.postimg.cc/PfV0hDsv/RCO021-2.jpg

Against Storm, She-Hulk and Invisible Woman:

So that's around 7 times, I count. Rulk's HF isn't like the Hulk's.

And I posted scans of Frank, a human, stabbing Rulk in the STERNUM. Not the heart. Had it gone all the way through (with a longer knife), maybe you would have a point. But it didn't, so you don't.

Post scans of him taking massive amounts of damage, and being fine from it. Besides, your statements make no sense. How can something 'always' be true, when as you state, we have 'variable' showings?

Nitpicking again? I meant freshly new in every new issue (new storyline and not a continuance of a series).
Franks knife looks like it went past the sternum. You just posted a better scan anyway (Rulks vital organs being stabbed and him surviving).

My point is Rulk is able to take a lot more damage than a human could without being koed or killed. Therefore hes not going to be koed with a single stab through the face.

Originally posted by h1a8
Nitpicking again? I meant freshly new in every new issue (new storyline and not a continuance of a series).
Franks knife looks like it went past the sternum. You just posted a better scan anyway (Rulks vital organs being stabbed and him surviving).

My point is Rulk is able to take a lot more damage than a human could without being koed or killed. Therefore hes not going to be koed with a single stab through the face.

Your point is silly, though.

A lot of SUPERhuman characters can take a lot more damage than a HUMAN can without being koed or killed.

This does NOT mean they cannot be KOed by Wolverine stabbing them full in the face, once. Spiderman is a good example of this. Hell, we don't even need to use superhuman characters - humans like Punisher, or Batman will do just fine as examples, too.

I am not nitpicking, you are just incredibly vague in your statements and all over the place with your backtracking. How am I to debate your points when half the words you use are just there as figurative speech?

And in my scan, he was laid out and KOed for a while. But if you think it is a better scan, sure.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Your point is silly, though.

A lot of [b]SUPERhuman characters can take a lot more damage than a HUMAN can without being koed or killed.

This does NOT mean they cannot be KOed by Wolverine stabbing them full in the face, once. Spiderman is a good example of this. Hell, we don't even need to use superhuman characters - humans like Punisher, or Batman will do just fine as examples, too.

I am not nitpicking, you are just incredibly vague in your statements and all over the place with your backtracking. How am I to debate your points when half the words you use are just there as figurative speech?

And in my scan, he was laid out and KOed for a while. But if you think it is a better scan, sure. [/B]

I meant fatally damaged. And if other superhumans can also, while having a healing factor then that does mean they can also take Wolverine stabbing them in the face without being koed too.

So you believe that Rulk would be koed with a stab to the face. I don't. We disagree here.

Now Thor is different though.

Lastly, do you believe that Logan's claws break the laws of physics?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

He was hit, and it was daytime before he woke up:

Against Hulk (I already posted most of the fight in this thread), he was literally one-shotted and couldn't get up:
https://i.postimg.cc/PfV0hDsv/RCO021-2.jpg

Against Storm, She-Hulk and Invisible Woman:

So that's around 7 times, I count. Rulk's HF isn't like the Hulk's.

And I posted scans of Frank, a human, stabbing Rulk in the STERNUM. Not the heart. Had it gone all the way through (with a longer knife), maybe you would have a point. But it didn't, so you don't.

Post scans of him taking massive amounts of damage, and being fine from it. Besides, your statements make no sense. How can something 'always' be true, when as you state, we have 'variable' showings?

TL: DR

oh how i miss frank cho's art.. drooliodrooliodroolio

Originally posted by h1a8
I meant fatally damaged. And if other superhumans can also, while having a healing factor then that does mean they can also take Wolverine stabbing them in the face without being koed too.

So you believe that Rulk would be koed with a stab to the face. I don't. We disagree here.

Now Thor is different though.

Lastly, do you believe that Logan's claws break the laws of physics?

Spiderman has a healing factor. Captain America has a healing factor. Hulk has a healing factor.

Are you telling me none of them would be KOd (or worse, killed) by Logan stabbing them in the face? Better prove that. I provided a spectrum of people with worse HFs (Cap/Spidey) and better HFs (Hulk) than Rulk - the point being, they ALL have HFs, and they ALL would be KO'd/killed by Logan's claws in their head.

And yes, we disagree. Hulk has better healing feats than Rulk - Logan still KOed him with stabs to the head.

Comic physics or real world physics? I want to make sure you are being clear here, before you try and backtrack again.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Spiderman has a healing factor. Captain America has a healing factor. Hulk has a healing factor.

Are you telling me none of them would be KOd (or worse, killed) by Logan stabbing them in the face? Better prove that. I provided a spectrum of people with worse HFs (Cap/Spidey) and better HFs (Hulk) than Rulk - the point being, they ALL have HFs, and they ALL would be KO'd/killed by Logan's claws in their head.

And yes, we disagree. Hulk has better healing feats than Rulk - Logan still KOed him with stabs to the head.

Comic physics or real world physics? I want to make sure you are being clear here, before you try and backtrack again.

Worse, Logan has healed himself by eating himself - that's just straight up pissing all over the laws of thermodynamics lmao.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Worse, Logan has healed himself by eating himself - that's just straight up pissing all over the laws of thermodynamics lmao.

Think Stilt posted the scan originally, but yes.

I mean, one could make a perpetual energy machine by slicing strips off Wolverine and burning it/leaving it to rot and give off methane. He would continuously heal back up, guaranteeing you an endless supply of meat to use as fuel.

Stilt posted the scan but it was Astner who started with real world physics.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Worse, Logan has healed himself by eating himself - that's just straight up pissing all over the laws of thermodynamics lmao.