Originally posted by Surtur
He truly achieved a lot:
This would be hilarious if it wasn't painfully sad.
Did Trump keep Obama's programs running? Remember when we talked about Trump continuing Obama's war stuff and Trump was on pace to beat Obama's murder numbers?
Did that still hold true or did Trump pull his head out and stop murdering brown kids?
Originally posted by dadudemon
This would be hilarious if it wasn't painfully sad.Did Trump keep Obama's programs running? Remember when we talked about Trump continuing Obama's war stuff and Trump was on pace to beat Obama's murder numbers?
Did that still hold true or did Trump pull his head out and stop murdering brown kids?
Maybe someday America will wake up, kick most of the Democrats and Republicans out on their asses, and start electing people who aren't war profiteering, corporate slaves. Create your own never ending supply of fodder enemies through proxy wars with Russia, suck off arms manufacturing and construction companies by letting them make their cash, then profit as they suck you off politically and financially. It's a big ol' suck off bonanza!
As a bonus, brainwash folks like Star with messages of identity politics and not enough people will question you to matter! How will they change things when they're too busy arguing which party of war criminals has the worst war criminals! What are a couple of schmoes on an internet forum? Send our soldiers to die to buy a yacht! Kill brown kids to secure your new vacation home! Tell people it's unpatriotic to criticize wars for financial gain!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAH
It's kinda funny if you take a cosmic perspective. Nothing really matters in the end I guess. 😱
Originally posted by StyleTime
I've seen little evidence that Trump has stopped, which makes the faux concern over Obama-era war crimes from certain folks on the right hilarious.Maybe someday America will wake up, kick most of the Democrats and Republicans out on their asses, and start electing people who aren't war profiteering, corporate slaves. Create your own never ending supply of fodder enemies through proxy wars with Russia, suck off arms manufacturing and construction companies by letting them make their cash, then profit as they suck you off politically and financially. It's a big ol' suck off bonanza!
As a bonus, brainwash folks like Star with messages of identity politics and not enough people will question you to matter! How will they change things when they're too busy arguing which party of war criminals has the worst war criminals! What are a couple of schmoes on an internet forum? Send our soldiers to die to buy a yacht! Kill brown kids to secure your new vacation home! Tell people it's unpatriotic to criticize wars for financial gain!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAAHAH
It's kinda funny if you take a cosmic perspective. Nothing really matters in the end I guess. 😱
I'm unsure how Christian, especially the self-righteous and judgmental Evangelical Christians, can support a policy of murdering the innocents.
It's a pretty terrible thing to murder an innocent child in Christianity. Yet, they still support their Democratic and Republican Warlords. Biden, Obama, the Clintons, Trump - there's no difference. They are all warmongering murderers. Nothing else matters as that should be the most important thing we care about - whether or not our leaders support the continued murder of innocents.
Have you been living under a rock for years? The leftist extremists hate America. Don't see how you can argue otherwise. Also, the left-wing media hates America.. President Trump gave what was probably his best speech on July 3rd at Mount Rushmore praising the four men depicted on the mount and everyone in the left-leaning media called it "dark" and "divisive" lol.
If you don't think the far left hates America then you are living in an alternate reality. They are constantly trashing the country, its founders, and the flag. FFS, they are tearing down statues of Thomas Jefferson.
They also bash capitalism every chance they get while praising shitty commie systems like Marxism. Capitalism is as much a part of America as the Constitution is.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnaedurwank
Have you been living under a rock for years? The leftist extremists hate America. Don't see how you can argue otherwise. Also, the left-wing media hates America.. President Trump gave what was probably his best speech on July 3rd at Mount Rushmore praising the four men depicted on the mount and everyone in the left-leaning media called it "dark" and "divisive" lol.If you don't think the far left hates America then you are living in an alternate reality. They are constantly trashing the country, its founders, and the flag. FFS, they are tearing down statues of Thomas Jefferson.
They also bash capitalism every chance they get while praising shitty commie systems like Marxism. Capitalism is as much a part of America as the Constitution is.
There are also several members on this forum who hate America as well.
And no, I'm not talking about foreigners like pooty/whirly who hate it because he's clearly jealous that it's better than his country; there are actual Americans on this forum who hate their own country.... or at least they appear to judging by all of their "America is evil" posts.
I won't mention them by name but they know who they are.
I think a lot of leftist Americans suffer from some kind of widespread survivor's guilt-type pathology. America is considerably better than most other nations in terms of living standards, but they have a bloody past, and so they get this kind of thing where they feel like they don't deserve what they have.
Forgetting, of course, that the history of humanity is bloodshed, and that they're no different to anybody else — some leftist Americans are even stooping to praising China, completely ignoring that country's own recent bloody past.
This applies to a lot of Europe, too, but I think it likely originated in America, and then spread to Europe.
Originally posted by Artol
Of mainstream voters and politicians no one really hates the United States. They hate aspects of it and that often culminates into an strong rejection when the "opposing party" is in power. You can see that in Republicans under Obama just as much as Democrats under Trump or Bush.
At one point I might have agreed, but the masks have slipped.
I'm honestly struggling to think of any 1st world countries that have such...self loathing among their population compared to what we see here in the USA.
Originally posted by SurturAgreed on the first point, but for the second all I can say is, Bruh: Sweden.
At one point I might have agreed, but the masks have slipped.I'm honestly struggling to think of any 1st world countries that have such...self loathing among their population compared to what we see here in the USA.
Originally posted by Scribble
Agreed on the first point, but for the second all I can say is, Bruh: Sweden.
Ah yeah I'm sure they suffer from tons of white guilt.
But is there also a hatred of their own country? Are they out getting on their knees and apologizing to black people and washing their feet? Cuz that happened here.
Originally posted by SurturYeah, that stuff is pretty bizarre and pathetic. But what they've let happen to Sweden is way worse than USA... maybe that's because of the government in charge, but the people voted them in repeatedly, so... they seem to like turning their cities into ultra-violent ME ghettos for no reason.
Ah yeah I'm sure they suffer from tons of white guilt.But is there also a hatred of their own country? Are they out getting on their knees and apologizing to black people and washing their feet? Cuz that happened here.
Originally posted by SurturDisagree, you are confusing hating themselves/America, with a distaste for the far right rhetoric many here follow and trump empowers and embodies
Some loathe themselves not just for being American, but for being white too.There is a pervasive self hatred here that I don't think we see at the same level in any other first world countries.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Disagree, you are confusing hating themselves/America, with a distaste for the far right rhetoric many here follow and trump empowers and embodies
It's far more complicated then that. At least in the USA where the riots occured they were majority democrat controlled cities. Many of the people in power are minority-majority leaders, they set the tone. They create the laws and hire and train their local law enforcement.
Perhaps one of the best examples of this was in Seattle with the CHOP and the mayor gave them free reign, violence and looting, destruction of property all while the far left set the tone and the rules in their safe space.
Originally posted by snowdragonYou see i have many Americans who work for me, all say the same thing, that they hate Trump and the right. A very close friend from Philly, who is still in KSA is disgusted with the right-wing rhetoric of the last four years and he is an ex marine officer. Lovely bloke. I actually don't discuss US politics with any of them. I just listen. Like they do when I bang on about the UK.
It's far more complicated then that. At least in the USA where the riots occured they were majority democrat controlled cities. Many of the people in power are minority-majority leaders, they set the tone. They create the laws and hire and train their local law enforcement.Perhaps one of the best examples of this was in Seattle with the CHOP and the mayor gave them free reign, violence and looting, destruction of property all while the far left set the tone and the rules in their safe space.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
You see i have many Americans who work for me, all say the same thing, that they hate Trump and the right. A very close friend from Philly, who is still in KSA is disgusted with the right-wing rhetoric of the last four years and he is an ex marine officer. Lovely bloke. I actually don't discuss US politics with any of them. I just listen. Like they do when I bang on about the UK.
You can hate all the right wing rhetoric you want but when we take a closer look at the areas of violence and rioting it wasn't in right wing usa. It was in places controlled by the left who set their own narratives and tones with very little right wing in said areas.
The premise makes no sense, somone in Texas says something which incites violence in Seattle? So destroy where you live even though that texas mssg won't impact you, it's insanity driven by our media. If you spend your time hating on the right how can ppl on the left work to create real lasting change to make their communities better.
Noam Chomsky said it best:
Manufacturing Consent: The Political Economy of the Mass Media is a 1988 book by Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky, in which the authors propose that the mass communication media of the U.S. "are effective and powerful ideological institutions that carry out a system-supportive propaganda function, by reliance on market forces, internalized assumptions, and self-censorship, and without overt coercion", by means of the propaganda model of communication
Then they still use techniques that Edward Bernays used from the early to mid 1900's for propogandizing.
Originally posted by snowdragonthe reason it was leftwing controlled is because they have a voice there.
You can hate all the right wing rhetoric you want but when we take a closer look at the areas of violence and rioting it wasn't in right wing usa. It was in places controlled by the left who set their own narratives and tones with very little right wing in said areas.The premise makes no sense, somone in Texas says something which incites violence in Seattle? So destroy where you live even though that texas mssg won't impact you, it's insanity driven by our media. If you spend your time hating on the right how can ppl on the left work to create real lasting change to make their communities better.