Originally posted by DarkSaint85Didn't Havok of the X-Men contain a black hole too?
It's pretty amazing piercing resistance too, since we are bringing physics into it.Wolverine, with his slightly higher than peak human strength, can pierce the Hulk. This is because the force of his muscles is concentrated on the extremely sharp points of his claws.
In this instance? 7 trillion tons of force, concentrated over an infinitely small point. No damage.
Crazy thing is, the black hole was sentient. Pages before the being said that it was going to use its power to destroy EARTH once released. Also, please dont mention the weight of a black hole because Flash picked up the box that was holding the atom and the black hole and carried Lantern at the same time.
Originally posted by Diesldude
In order for the star to form into a black hole, it has to be 3 times as mass as our sun. So your spec of dust size black hole has as much mass as at least 3 earth suns. Ill get into your misrepresentation of the scans later when I have time.
Originally posted by h1a8
The black hole was fully released in Superman's hand after he grabbed it. How is that a lie?
Where is a magnetic field helping Superman after the black hole is released? Do you know what released means?
Couple things
1. When a star actually forms into a blackhole, it doesn't become a spec sized one. So applying the logic of an actual stars mass doesn't qualify here. And mass in general, is irrelevant for this feat because Superman isn't holding it up against gravity. The blackhole was floating mid air when Superman grabbed the device. He's not struggling against the weight, he's only struggling against the gravity that's leaking out
2. Superman grabbed it before it fully released. Meaning he's basically reinforcing the strength of the containment device (with his grip strength) to keep it in. The blackhole did NOT fully break out of the device (while) in the palm of his hand. That's not stated NOR implied.
All we know is he's struggling against a non fully released dust sized blackhole. it's unknown exactly how much gravity hit him before GL helped him hold it and before they reinforced the device with Supermans static electricity and GLs magnetic field, period.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Couple things
1. When a star actually forms into a blackhole, it doesn't become a spec sized one. So applying the logic of an actual stars mass doesn't qualify here. And mass in general, is irrelevant for this feat because Superman isn't holding it up against gravity. The blackhole was floating mid air when Superman grabbed the device. He's not struggling against the weight, he's only struggling against the gravity that's leaking out2. Superman grabbed it before it fully released. Meaning he's basically reinforcing the strength of the containment device (with his grip strength) to keep it in. The blackhole did NOT fully break out of the device (while) in the palm of his hand. That's not stated NOR implied.
All we know is he's struggling against a non fully released dust sized blackhole. it's unknown exactly how much gravity hit him before GL helped him hold it and before they reinforced the device with Supermans static electricity and GLs magnetic field, period.
1a. yes it does, it becomes infinitely small. Research it. The size doesn’t matter it’s the mass. A star has to be a certain amount of mass before it can become a black hole.
2. Sure it was floating due to the magnetic field that was negating the blackhole’s gravity and pull. The device was holding the blackhole by a magnetic field. In order to release it, you get rid of the magnetic field, or turn it off. When this was done, the blackhole was getting released and this is what happened.
Superman puts his hand around it and the distortions stop.
Did the magnetic field get turned back on? Of course not,
Superman’s hand was then doing the job of the magnetic field.
Once the blackhole was in Superman’s hand it was completely released. He was holding a blackhole that’s 10’s of times the mass of a sun. Insane feat.
Originally posted by Stoic
Wait. The very scan itself says that it was not yet fully released, because you know, if it was, everyone besides Superman, and John would've been killed instantly. It's funny how you guys make such a big deal of these feats, but then turn around and discredit Hyperion's feat which was far beeter.
Originally posted by StoicYou caught him lying too huh? He's so blinded by his love for superman, that he has mental blocks that prevents him from reading where it CLEARLY states that the black hole was NOT fully released.
Wait. The very scan itself says that it was not yet fully released, because you know, if it was, everyone besides Superman, and John would've been killed instantly. It's funny how you guys make such a big deal of these feats, but then turn around and discredit Hyperion's feat which was far beeter.
Originally posted by JBL
You caught him lying too huh? He's so blinded by his love for superman, that he has mental blocks that prevents him from reading where it CLEARLY states that the black hole was NOT fully released.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Anyway, even Kyle Rayner has contained a sun sized black hole (specifically stated to have infinite gravity).And Kyle has outright stated that he is less powerful than Superman (That's how scaling works, right carver)?