Originally posted by juggernaut74
Kong was drugged also when they got to Antarctica as well.
He was well over the drug effects long before Zilla burned an impossible hole all the way down to him.
...Straight enough to catch them "X-men scratches to the chest"-fade that he caught, from the KANG of the MUNSTAS. 😂
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Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
the movie NEVER really gave a clear who would really win. Kong was drugged and at a disadvantage in the ocean. The second fight told you that all it took was for kong to have an equalizer and the right ground to fight in to win. That last godzilla rampage was some other shit but he clearly had to give all he got to make it happen because he got his ass scraped by mechG real quick. Kong was also gimped the whole movie trying to make sure jia was protected.Kong was on anesthesia on the ship. They needed him sedated the whole time so he wouldn't try to get free. There isn't one indication that he wasn't on anesthesia anymore by the time Godzilla showed up. But even besides that, they are one and one in the city. Kong won one and Godzilla won one.
Kong didn't win shit he nearly got drowned by Godzilla in round 1.
Round 2 Godzilla was stomping on his chest even without trying to kill him Kong was about to die...
Okay do it doesn't look like I have to do any spoiler tags cause no one else is haha.
I enjoyed the movie but I also don't take Kaiju movies too seriously so it may help me get into a mindsight to enjoy them despite science and stuff.
The bouts between Kong and Godzilla were creative and produced some interesting monster moments. I did like the ship battles.
The Hollow Earth stuff wasn't overtly great but it did add an emotional journey for Kong which I liked. And it served to give him a place to go so that he could be home.
I also think they did a good of showing how each species could be considered Alphas but different ways.
For instance Kong's species are Alphas not because of brute force but because of their cognitive capabilities. In that way Kong and his species is very close to humans. Although Kong is still a powerhouse physically compared to most Titans he wouldn't be able to overpower the strongest titans like Ghidorah or Godzilla but out-strategize them.
Godzilla on the other hand while not dumb, he did think to charge the axe against MechaG, relies on overall brute power to maintain dominance.
So I liked how they portrayed that. The axe might have been a plot tool but I think it was a relatively thought out plot tool that made sense.
I also think they did a good job of showing why Godzilla and Kong would team up against MechaG. As Godzilla already expanded a lot of effort fighting Kong and MechaG is both strategy and brute force.
I do have some issues with the movie but to me they are minor.
First they tried to do such a forced payoff with the children's subplot. Like it was obvious they were mainly there just to give the audience some background information but then they tried to tie it into the overall big fight. They probably didn't need to do that.
The other one is I wish they would have done something in the MechaG and Godzilla one on one fight to make Godzilla look a little better. Like they did a decent job of setting up with MechaG was going to win. Godzilla was already injured and tired and MechaG was employing tactics Godzilla wasn't ready for. Still I would have liked to see something showing that a one on one could have gone differently had Godzilla been fresh prepared.
It just had to be something simple. Like for instance their breath attack power match. They could have done something like showing Godzilla really amp up his atomic breath and it looks like he is going to win only for MechaG to blast him a missile to blind Godzilla. That would show Godzilla had the raw power to contend with his countermeasure monster. Or showing his injured leg giving out and that's why MechaG was able to win. Something like that would have gone a long way to letting Godzilla save face in that battle a little better.
The other complaint I had was I think the writers could have been a lot more inventive in how they powered up MechaG. I mean it's an overall small point but just like downloading some information on a rock was just so lame. I was hoping they would have somehow used the fight between Kong and Godzilla to power MechaG up.
I finally finished watching this after 3 or 4 sittings because I just kept falling asleep with all the giant Michael Bay action.
I give it a lot of points just for creativity and imagination. That matters a lot to me, but I think they should have dedicated an entire film to the exploration of the Hollow Earth. That had so much potential that it shouldn't have been just a minor plot point to another film. It's almost as if some studio excecs aren't doing their job in milking this franchise for all it's worth. Which is a little surprising.
They're not wrong about most of it, I guess, but I give it a more mediocre recommendation than they do. Even though most of the effects are nice and visually creative, I still found much of the over-the-top destruction to be somewhat boring.
Kong: Skull Island is still the far superior film in this latest series.
Originally posted by Kazenji
No more stupid then what we got from Toho's Godzilla movies, But i keep forgetting most folks on here don't watch foreign movies.
Yeah these snobby critics don't seem to get a giant monster movie is watched for what reason again? And far as plots go in Legendary's Godzilla trilogy, GvK's is the least cringe one to boot.
Originally posted by Estacado
Kong didn't win shit he nearly got drowned by Godzilla in round 1.Round 2 Godzilla was stomping on his chest even without trying to kill him Kong was about to die...
Kong never fought in his element, In both rounds Zilla had the upper hand...
One fight was on water
One fight was in the city
Kong's element is jungle type settings.... had he had that the last fight would have been different... kong couldn't move fast enough and he nothing to use to his advantage. Other than his ancestral axe..
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilc o p e
Kong never fought in his element, In both rounds Zilla had the upper hand...One fight was on water
One fight was in the city
Kong's element is jungle type settings.... had he had that the last fight would have been different... kong couldn't move fast enough and he nothing to use to his advantage. Other than his ancestral axe..
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilI'm honestly curious on what advantages you think Kong in a Jungle would have gotten that he wouldn't have gotten in the City?
Kong never fought in his element, In both rounds Zilla had the upper hand...One fight was on water
One fight was in the city
Kong's element is jungle type settings.... had he had that the last fight would have been different... kong couldn't move fast enough and he nothing to use to his advantage. Other than his ancestral axe..
Originally posted by Nemesis XThere were really two fights.
I'm pretty sure there was 3 rounds and Kong won the second knocking Godzilla down after that explosive bonk to the head that I think momentarily knocked him out.
The one out at sea.
The city one. Kong got a massive hit in with the axe that knocked them both down. Kong got first but Godzilla wasn't really that far behind in getting up. It would be like saying with two people pushed each other down and one person got up a little faster that is them winning the 'round'
I'm not sure why we're talking about the city fight like it was two distinct rounds with a bell or something. It was one fight.
Originally posted by Kazenji
No more stupid then what we got from Toho's Godzilla movies, But i keep forgetting most folks on here don't watch foreign movies.
On top of that, there is a serious disconnect between this film and the rest of the Legendary Kaiju films. The others were somewhat grounded and serious but this one went full cheese. Its very incongruous with the other movies.
Originally posted by Newjak
There were really two fights.The one out at sea.
The city one. Kong got a massive hit in with the axe that knocked them both down. Kong got first but Godzilla wasn't really that far behind in getting up. It would be like saying with two people pushed each other down and one person got up a little faster that is them winning the 'round'
I'm not sure why we're talking about the city fight like it was two distinct rounds with a bell or something. It was one fight.
I'm pretty sure when two fighters are taking a break mid-fight, that's a round over when they fell. Kong got up roaming the city figuring out what his next strategy is while Godzilla asked for the license plate of what hit him.