This is actually my favorite fight between two characters from two different universes.
I've read all of the appearances from both characters and I don't know who would win in a fight.
I know for sure that Plutonian is faster and I know for sure that Sentry is much harder to take down.
Other than that it becomes a guessing game, because even if one character looks stronger in one area... the other character might not be far behind. Like for example in the strength department: Plutonian was still standing, when half the pull of black hole was activated – which resulted in the weight of a star system being dropped on top of him. That weight liquified beings strong and durable enough to split planets in half. Now Sentry has never pulled something like that off, but I don't see Sentry struggling with half of the pull of a black hole. I just don't. Even high heralds should be able to deal with that just fine and both Plutonian and Sentry are above that level in my opinion.
Or how about energy projection? Plutonian has never destroyed planets with his energy projection, but he has casually erased entire cities with his heat vision – so I wouldn't be surprised, if he could burn down an entire planet in its entirety.
In the end of the day, they both affect matter and change reality. To me it looks like Plutonian has the potential for better control on a smaller level, while Sentry has the potential for more power on a higher level, just with less control over it. But that doesn't tell me who would win.
Originally posted by zopzopI'm pretty sure non of those feats support Sentry winning. Otherwise, you are implying that Plutonian has no feats better than those.
Sentry. Even without going Void, he tanked Black Bolt's voice and overloaded Absorbing Man (not to mention treating a solid mid herald, Terrax, like a child).
Personally, the faster one wins this and that's Plutonian. Sentry would be a statue against someone with picosecond perceptions.
Originally posted by h1a8
I'm pretty sure non of those feats support Sentry winning. Otherwise, you are implying that Plutonian has no feats better than those.Personally, the faster one wins this and that's Plutonian. Sentry would be a statue against someone with picosecond perceptions.
Terrax's geokinesis lifted the entire island of Manhattan into orbit, he's survived inside a super massive black hole for weeks and was actually getting the upper hand against a Galactus' amped Dazzler until Recorder boosted her power even more, he's destroyed an entire planet, he's gone toe to toe with Morg for extended periods of time, in a weakened body he fought off Nova/Firelord/Air Walker, in a weakened body he was winning against the New Warriors and Fantastic Four who were armed with Anti-Terrax weapons by Reed (it took the Silver Surfer to save them). Those feats alone sh|t all over anything Plutonian has done and yet Sentry treated him as a child unworthy of his attention.
I don't think I need to mention how haxx Black Bolt's voice is. Even people that undersell Marvel characters know what's up with him.
Originally posted by Galan007
Toward the end of the series, Tony was a BEAST.For example, it took Modeus drawing energy from entire starS(and burning them out), just to harm Tony physically:
https://i.imgur.com/jQzsnk7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/0HpSaWz.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/c2XsYSV.jpg
"I don't have enough energy to fight you! But I can draw it from distant stars! For every moment I hold you down--for every blow you force me to land--an entire star system dies!"What makes this feat even more impressive is that Tony wasn't fighting back -- he literally allowed Modeus to beat on him with power of that magnitude without even attempting to defend himself(Modeus had possessed the body of his love interest.) However, Modeus made it clear that IF Tony wanted to, he could've still easily beaten her:
https://i.imgur.com/iasf7gC.jpgHe also has other crazy feats like physically pushing Singapore under water, flying around the earth at high speed while holding an object that weighed as much as a neutron star, perceiving by the picosecond, tanking black hole-esque forces, stopping the moon from rotating by nullifying its inertia, demonstrating intangibility, etc. etc.
Originally posted by MrMindThat's because Marvel has an Superman obsession, if they can't own him they will created characters based on him and TRY to make them more powerful than the original, and Marvel fan boys will follow suit and eat it up.
Sentry has got to be the most overrated character of all timeDunno why this b list garbage gets so much hype throughout the years
Originally posted by Enzeru
This is actually my favorite fight between two characters from two different universes.
I've read all of the appearances from both characters and I don't know who would win in a fight.I know for sure that Plutonian is faster and I know for sure that Sentry is much harder to take down.
Other than that it becomes a guessing game, because even if one character looks stronger in one area... the other character might not be far behind. Like for example in the strength department: Plutonian was still standing, when half the pull of black hole was activated – which resulted in the weight of a star system being dropped on top of him. That weight liquified beings strong and durable enough to split planets in half. Now Sentry has never pulled something like that off, but I don't see Sentry struggling with half of the pull of a black hole. I just don't. Even high heralds should be able to deal with that just fine and both Plutonian and Sentry are above that level in my opinion.
Or how about energy projection? Plutonian has never destroyed planets with his energy projection, but he has casually erased entire cities with his heat vision – so I wouldn't be surprised, if he could burn down an entire planet in its entirety.
In the end of the day, they both affect matter and change reality. To me it looks like Plutonian has the potential for better control on a smaller level, while Sentry has the potential for more power on a higher level, just with less control over it. But that doesn't tell me who would win.
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Originally posted by Enzeru
This is actually my favorite fight between two characters from two different universes.
I've read all of the appearances from both characters and I don't know who would win in a fight.I know for sure that Plutonian is faster and I know for sure that Sentry is much harder to take down.
Other than that it becomes a guessing game, because even if one character looks stronger in one area... the other character might not be far behind. Like for example in the strength department: Plutonian was still standing, when half the pull of black hole was activated – which resulted in the weight of a star system being dropped on top of him. That weight liquified beings strong and durable enough to split planets in half. Now Sentry has never pulled something like that off, but I don't see Sentry struggling with half of the pull of a black hole. I just don't. Even high heralds should be able to deal with that just fine and both Plutonian and Sentry are above that level in my opinion.
Or how about energy projection? Plutonian has never destroyed planets with his energy projection, but he has casually erased entire cities with his heat vision – so I wouldn't be surprised, if he could burn down an entire planet in its entirety.
In the end of the day, they both affect matter and change reality. To me it looks like Plutonian has the potential for better control on a smaller level, while Sentry has the potential for more power on a higher level, just with less control over it. But that doesn't tell me who would win.
Are you talking about the prison planet with a gravity well? Do you have scans of it? It’s been awhile but I don’t think he withstood half a black hole worth of gravity. The total was half but they don’t show them using it at full capacity at least that’s how I remember.
Originally posted by Sin I AMwelcome back
Why, thank you, M'Lady. I won't be staying long though.
Originally posted by DiesldudeAre you talking about the prison planet with a gravity well? Do you have scans of it? It’s been awhile but I don’t think he withstood half a black hole worth of gravity. The total was half but they don’t show them using it at full capacity at least that’s how I remember.
Yes, they used it at its full capacity. Half a black hole worth of force.
It's an amazing feat, but I don't think it's something out of the ordinary for even Marvel high heralds. If I remember correctly, then Thor flew into a black hole to grab Red Hulk and fly him out. So escaping its power strikes me as something high heralds can do consistently... and I'd always argue that the Plutonian and the Sentry are above the high herald level.
Originally posted by Enzerufirst you wank the feat and then try to pass it on as ordinary by saying that any high herald can perform it just so that others don’t look deeper into your claims.
Why, thank you, M'Lady. I won't be staying long though.Yes, they used it at its full capacity. Half a black hole worth of force.
It's an amazing feat, but I don't think it's something out of the ordinary for even Marvel high heralds. If I remember correctly, then Thor flew into a black hole to grab Red Hulk and fly him out. So escaping its power strikes me as something high heralds can do consistently... and I'd always argue that the Plutonian and the Sentry are above the high herald level.
The prison guards, were able to control the gravity of the prison with pinpoint accuracy. They could increase the gravity of the prison to pin a prisoner from normal planetary level to whatever they wanted, in this case it was a hundred fold. Not full capacity of a half a blackhole. And it wasn’t always turned on, they used it only when they had to take control of a situation with rowdy prisoners.
