Originally posted by Surtur
I disagree. It shows right wing extremism is nothing to get upset over. And while Antifa doesn't have the death count, they do have mayors and governors looking the other way over their destruction.
Originally posted by NewGuy01
It's slightly disconcerting to me that you can look at dead people on one hand, and damaged property on the other, and then in the same breath imply that the latter is the more pressing concern.
That's not what I said, but you will earn a bingo from whirly I guarantee it
Originally posted by NewGuy01I didn't notice that's what he'd done, however now you've pointed it out. Bingo! 👆
It's slightly disconcerting to me that you can look at dead people on one hand, and damaged property on the other, and then in the same breath imply that the latter is the more pressing concern.
Originally posted by Surturtbh, i don't think that little of you to think you equate death and property damage as the same. I think it was just shitty wording in your post. Something we all do, I think you mean the fact Antifa mobilises more people to protest undermines the rule of law more. I disagree... Your Country was founded undermining the rule of law.
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So no one is going to talk about the 30-50 deaths from the George Floyd protests that have been occurring since May where the data for the 329 deaths stop? Protests which started on May 26th, 2020?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests#Extremist_participation
FFS, you guys suck as arguing.
You're so ignorant of any facts about reality that Whirly can easily hand your asses to you with these troll threads.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
tbh, i don't think that little of you to think you equate death and property damage as the same. I think it was just shitty wording in your post. Something we all do, I think you mean the fact Antifa mobilises more people to protest undermines the rule of law more. I disagree... Your Country was founded undermining the rule of law.
To bad most of the undermining of the law took a huge shit on many of the people the protests were supposed to helping, minorities.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
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The dome of the U.S. Capitol is visible as a sign that reads "Black Lives Matter" hangs on an overpass on North Capitol Street in Washington on June 2, 2020. (AP)The dome of the U.S. Capitol is visible as a sign that reads "Black Lives Matter" hangs on an overpass on North Capitol Street in Washington on June 2, 2020. (AP)
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We found no evidence that the toll from protests against police brutality is as high as the numbers in the post. The U.S. Justice Department told us it does not have numbers on officer injuries or property damage resulting from civil disturbances.Black Lives Matter protests attract not only BLM members but supporters and opponents, making it difficult to assign blame to BLM for particular incidents.
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Originally posted by dadudemon
So no one is going to talk about the 30-50 deaths from the George Floyd protests that have been occurring since May where the data for the 329 deaths stop? Protests which started on May 26th, 2020?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests#Extremist_participation
FFS, you guys suck as arguing.
You're so ignorant of any facts about reality that Whirly can easily hand your asses to you with these troll threads.
Whirly doesn’t accept truth only his truth so why would it matter?
Originally posted by dadudemonDDM's own link
So no one is going to talk about the 30-50 deaths from the George Floyd protests that have been occurring since May where the data for the 329 deaths stop? Protests which started on May 26th, 2020?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests#Extremist_participation
FFS, you guys suck as arguing.
You're so ignorant of any facts about reality that Whirly can easily hand your asses to you with these troll threads.
There have been accusations of various extremist groups using the cover of the protests to foment general unrest in the United States. CNN initially reported on May 31 that "although interference in this way may be happening, federal and local officials have yet to provide evidence to the public."[142]
A number of Trump administration officials and politicians, such as New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio[143] and FBI Director Christopher A. Wray,[144] have alleged that Antifa or anarchists were exploiting the situation or were responsible for violence; however, there is no evidence that Antifa-aligned individuals played a role in instigating the protests or violence, or that Antifa played a significant role in the protests,[145][146][147] and the Trump administration has provided no evidence for its claims.[147] The vast majority of protests were peaceful; among the 14,000 arrests made, most were for minor offenses such as alleged curfew violations or blocking a roadway.[3] Persons involved in visible crimes such as arson or property damage were not ideologically organized, although some were motivated by anger towards police.[3] Episodes of looting were committed by "regular criminal groups" and street gangs[148][146] and was motivated by personal gain rather than ideology.[3] A large number of white nationalists did not appear in response to the protests, although "a handful of apparent lone actors" were arrested for attempting to harm protesters.[3] There was, however, a scattered number of armed paramilitary-style militia movement groups, and there were "several cases where members of these groups discharged firearms, causing chaos or injuring protesters."[3]
According to the Institute for Research and Education on Human Rights (IREHR), which mapped the appearance of various right-wing or far-right actors or extremist groups at rallies throughout the U.S., there had been 136 confirmed cases of right-wing participation at the protests by June 19, with many more unconfirmed. "Boogaloo Bois", Three Percenters, Oath Keepers, Proud Boys, neo-Confederates, white nationalists, and an assortment of militias and vigilante groups reportedly had a presence at some protests, mostly in small towns and rural areas.[3][149] Boogaloo Bois, whom are generally pro-gun, anti-authoritarian, and accelerationist, have reportedly been present at no less than 40 George Floyd protests, several reportedly linked with violence.[3] Their continued presence online has caused Facebook and TikTok to take action against their violent and anti-government posts.[150][151]
Originally posted by dadudemon
So no one is going to talk about the 30-50 deaths from the George Floyd protests that have been occurring since May where the data for the 329 deaths stop? Protests which started on May 26th, 2020?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests#Extremist_participation
FFS, you guys suck as arguing.
You're so ignorant of any facts about reality that Whirly can easily hand your asses to you with these troll threads.
I have brought that up plenty of times 😉 Normally it's danced around, just like the protests for BLM fooked up massive amounts of black businesses and homes.
They very cause for "justice" stepped on the people they supposedly represnted.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
tbh, i don't think that little of you to think you equate death and property damage as the same. I think it was just shitty wording in your post. Something we all do, I think you mean the fact Antifa mobilises more people to protest undermines the rule of law more. I disagree... Your Country was founded undermining the rule of law.
It wasn't poorly worded.
Antifa has the mayors and governors looking the other way over their destruction.
If nazis firebombed a courthouse they wouldn't look the other way even if nobody died.
It wasn't about property damage being worse than murder, it was about the shit anitfa does just being dismissed. Like attempted murder, for instance. Portland mayor legit called them attempted killers. But this was after cucking for them for so long.
Too little, too late.
Originally posted by dadudemon
So no one is going to talk about the 30-50 deaths from the George Floyd protests that have been occurring since May where the data for the 329 deaths stop? Protests which started on May 26th, 2020?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests#Extremist_participation
FFS, you guys suck as arguing.
You're so ignorant of any facts about reality that Whirly can easily hand your asses to you with these troll threads.
I agree that that is the main argument that is used in US political discourse right now, it’s rhetorically effective, but I don’t find it convincing mainly because I don’t think it can be established that these deaths were caused by left wing radicalism, and certainly not Antifa.
The way it works rhetorically is that he US has coded everything in a partisan way, so George Floyd Protests are left wing, therefore death associated with George Floyd protests are left wing, and I think that is convincing to many, but in terms of extremist and radical terrorism we can’t establish these the same way we can far right terrorism or Muslim terrorism.
Originally posted by SurturAttempted murder if it happened isn't murder though is it?
It wasn't poorly worded.Antifa has the mayors and governors looking the other way over their destruction.
If nazis firebombed a courthouse they wouldn't look the other way even if nobody died.
It wasn't about property damage being worse than murder, it was about the shit anitfa does just being dismissed. Like attempted murder, for instance. Portland mayor legit called them attempted killers. But this was after cucking for them for so long.
Too little, too late.