Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That is the current narrative at DC.
It really isn't.
Lol what? Why is it, that only Superman has different levels, but no one else can push themselves? A race is NOWHERE near as serious for a Flash when their family is at stake.
Except it was the multiverse was at stake and Barry was going as fast as he could.
Flash rebirth is non canon at this point.
Wrong. Happened years ago:
Wally West no longer needs Jesse Quick's speed to be as fast as Zoom. To them, Superman is a statue.
Zoom was never as fast as he was in his original appearance. Kal L oneshotted him under Geoff Johns just a few years later.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/The-Flash-2016/Issue-50?id=136950Just read Flash War. It conclusively proves that Wally West is definitely the fastest Flash. Wally >/= Hunter >> Barry >>> everyone else
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Not true. Zoom was so fast, even Wally West could not perceive him or keep up:
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11114/111140449/4681450-7557964248-35254.jpgAt his peak, Zoom is so fast, he could ghost Flash in a fight without them noticing.
Wally needed to steal extra speed from another speedster such as Jesse:
https://pm1.narvii.com/6071/b6d00c9b0eab6a075254ae2f6070f271c57497ac_hq.jpgNow however, Wally has gotten fast enough to keep up with him:
https://i.postimg.cc/NG81KHMr/RCO015-1583385388.jpg < Pay attention to this scan. Wally specifically says, he's running as fast as he can and is barely able to keep up. Then he instantly pushes past his limitations, which was already multiple levels above when Superman while flying, could not keep up.
https://i.postimg.cc/659Cnp2b/RCO016-1583385388.jpg < Then he catches up, speeds past him, and circles back around casually.
https://i.postimg.cc/5NnL3W84/RCO017-1583385388.jpgWhich is why I'd argue if Wally wanted, Superman would be a statue. Which is aligned with what happend:
https://i.postimg.cc/tJzPwLfz/RCO015-1582385726.jpgWally and Zoom are so fast, not even Barry should be able to react to them imo. Superman shouldn't even be in the conversation tbh.
Just to be clear, these are extreme situations, where the Flash is multiple levels above his regular limitations.
Even in Flash Forward where Wally was wanked to hell, he stated that taking on Superman is suicide.
Originally posted by lft4ded
That and they said they were moving sub-light at the time. I think we can give Supes enough credit to assume he can keep up with sub-light foes.
https://i.imgur.com/BxSVkqe.jpg
Which Superman also did BTW.
http://i.imgur.com/bTTGYKl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0ftYh3c.jpg
Originally posted by abhilegend
Wut? They had to go faster than ever just to reach Darkseid and beyond lightspeed.https://i.imgur.com/BxSVkqe.jpg
Which Superman also did BTW.
http://i.imgur.com/bTTGYKl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0ftYh3c.jpg
Up for interpretation? It looked like the Omega beams were still gaining on them after they passed Superman so they may not have crossed the threshold to beyond light at that point.
Wally is definitely faster than Superman(as he should be.) I mean, Tempus Fuginaut outright stated that Wally is the fastest being in the multiverse:
https://i.imgur.com/W0xg7A7.jpg
But this thread isn't asking who would win in a race. It's asking if Wally is faster to the point where even a CIS-free/bloodlusted Superman would be unable to perceive or react to his attack.
