Originally posted by abhilegendProbably because if a writer had Shazam in a similar situation they would write them breaking said chains and we really wouldn't be that surprised by it.
Why would Captain Marvel or Black Adam break it?
I mean if we saw a similar feat written for Thor would you really be that surprised by it?
Originally posted by Newjakbut they wrote it for a guy that handles these kind of jobs. That’s his story, multiverse’s greatest antibody.
Probably because if a writer had Shazam in a similar situation they would write them breaking said chains and we really wouldn't be that surprised by it.I mean if we saw a similar feat written for Thor would you really be that surprised by it?
All of dc earth heros were in this story only superman performed these feats. If Thor, hulk or anyone else was there they would have been getting their asses handed to them like everyone else was.
Originally posted by Newjak
Probably because if a writer had Shazam in a similar situation they would write them breaking said chains and we really wouldn't be that surprised by it.I mean if we saw a similar feat written for Thor would you really be that surprised by it?
The days when Shazam was equal to Superman are long gone.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Hardened adamantium is not forgeable. Therefore it is tougher.
Superman didn't forge the chains, he broke them.
Adamantium can be broken.
2nd. Why can't adamantium be forged from an inverted black hole or by any amount force? What feats does it have to support that? We don't assume a special attribute without feats.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It’s an oxymoron. “Your chains were forged under the pressure of an inverted black hole” “They are unbreakable” How are they unbreakable if they were “forged”. And no, that doesn’t remove the point of other factors involved. It’s still a feat, just one left in an ambiguous state. I’m obviously talking about the scan Rage posted, THOR is ACTUALLY dealing with an opposing counter force. There’s only one thing that’s stronger than a neutron star and that’s a black hole. Superman is better able to focus without interference, except for some annoying monologue. Thor doesn’t have that luxury.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Probably:This is the closest I can find to Thor breaking Adamantium:
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/5/52246/1406383-thor_144.jpgAdamantium is historically very unbreakable in Marvel history, and has resisted Thor's strongest attacks. I 100% think Thor has a much better chance of breaking the chains in the OP scans than Adamantium. Adamantium has such significance in Marvel, even if he did break it, it would be retconned eventually.
Then again, I thought the same of Cap's shield, and now it's had to be reinforced by Asgardian Uru to have the same invulnerability it use to have story-wise.
That's a trillions of tons feat (great feat) but not a planetary weight feat, not a stellar weight feat, and not a millions of stellar weight feat. I calculated that feat a long time ago.
And we go by feats here. Adamantium is only as tough as it's greatest feats.
Thor barely denting adamantium means that adamantium is a little tougher than average Thor's strength with Mjolnir.
Originally posted by NewjakThis is kind of a weird argument to make tbh.
Probably because if a writer had Shazam in a similar situation they would write them breaking said chains and we really wouldn't be that surprised by it.I mean if we saw a similar feat written for Thor would you really be that surprised by it?
Yes, writers can have Shazam doing it... Or aunt May. That's the point of being a writer, you can do whatever you want with the story.
Originally posted by Adam GrimesI didn't just say any writer can make any character do anything. Of course that is true.
This is kind of a weird argument to make tbh.Yes, writers can have Shazam doing it... Or aunt May. That's the point of being a writer, you can do whatever you want with the story.
The key point was that would us as readers really be that surprised to read about Thor or Shazam or any number of really strong characters being written to do this? I would hope not.
Idk how many times I gotta explain it you dudes. NO matter how MASSIVE the object, it Does not REQUIRE unbreakable chains to haul anything through zero gravity. The chains have tensile strength, but so? Spider silk has more tensile strength than steel. Too many of you know too little about textiles, material and physics to be come up with definitive theorums regarding these feats. Hauling stars BETWEEN galaxies requires even less energy than moving a star WITHIN as a galaxy because of the relative lack of matter and therefore lack of gravitational or any forces at all that would impede movement.
It’s literally a universe where there’s devices that can negate or create massive gravity forces. It’s just as easy for them to have a device that nullifies the gravity and holds the gas in a field which would make it a lot easier to move in zero gravity. Far as we know the chains at best would have to hold a device that does that in place which would still be massive be for the most part hollow and weight a whole lot less than the mass of a star.
Originally posted by h1a8That's a trillions of tons feat (great feat) but not a planetary weight feat, not a stellar weight feat, and not a millions of stellar weight feat. I calculated that feat a long time ago.
A cubic meter of a neutron star weighs as much as the Atlantic Ocean, which is trillions of tons. Thor broke out from pressure to a neutron star, which is planetary or beyond.
Standard Thor breaking those chains is debatable. If pressed enough he might enter warrior madness and turns those chains to dust.
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman didn't forge the chains, he broke them.
Adamantium can be broken.2nd. Why can't adamantium be forged from an inverted black hole or by any amount force? What feats does it have to support that?
Something that can be forged is breakable. Primary adamantium has never been forged by an inverted black hole nor anything else if I recall correctly. The chains have.
