Can Thor and Thanos break The chains in UP and The Sky

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Originally posted by Booya_69
A cubic meter of a neutron star weighs as much as the Atlantic Ocean, which is trillions of tons. Thor broke out from pressure to a neutron star, which is planetary or beyond.
Standard Thor breaking those chains is debatable. If pressed enough he might enter warrior madness and turns those chains to dust.
Wrong! It was the gravitational force of a neutron star. An object would weigh about 200 billion times more than they do on Earth. So the objects that landed on Thor is assumed to weigh 200 billion times more than normal (ignoring the fact that these objects were not even crushed by the gravitational force on Thor).
So we have trillions of tons in magnitude, which again isn't even planetary.

Lastly, your math is in error.
There is a huge vast difference between a planet and a star, a star and billions of stars. So if Thor could press a planet or a star then 10x would still be astronomically lower than billions of stars.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Something that can be forged is breakable. Primary adamantium has never been forged by an inverted black hole nor anything else if I recall correctly. The chains have.

The chains can be broken because they were.
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Your logic is faulty. You are trying to argue that adamantium can't be broken since it can't be forged.

Well here's a couple of things that throw a wrench in that logic :
Exhibit A
1. Diamonds can't be forged (once they are hardened) but they can be broken.

Exhibit B
2. Assume adamantium can't be forged and therefore it can't be broken. But wait, it has been broken.
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So what does that tell you?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The chains are strapped to a shop which the propulsion is doing the actual pulling. SEEING as though there’s no way the chains can hold onto gas or plasma we KNOW there is some sort of device that holds the star which we DON’T know the mechanics of.

How does that negate the fact that mass was being pulled and the chains supplied the tension force.
I can put gas in a container and pull the container with a string. The string is still experiencing the tension force required to pull the gas forward.

Lastly, you are still trying to argue against writer's intent.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Something that can be forged is breakable. Primary adamantium has never been forged by an inverted black hole nor anything else if I recall correctly. The chains have.
by an inverted blackhole. 😂 do you even know what that means? Hint.. google singularity. 😂 Trillions upon trillions of stellar weight is nothing in comparison.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The chains are strapped to a shop which the propulsion is doing the actual pulling. SEEING as though there’s no way the chains can hold onto gas or plasma we KNOW there is some sort of device that holds the star which we DON’T know the mechanics of.

How does that negate the fact that mass was being pulled and the chains supplied the tension force.
I can put gas in a container and pull the container with a string. The string is still experiencing the tension force required to pull the gas forward.

Lastly, you are still trying to argue against writer's intent. The chains pull the star straight up because the writer wanted that to be.

Originally posted by Diesldude
by an inverted blackhole. 😂 do you even know what that means? Hint.. google singularity. 😂 Trillions upon trillions of stellar weight is nothing in comparison.

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And singularities have asymptotic gravitational force the closer an object gets to it. There is infinite gravitational force at the singularity. So in theory, all things would be spaghettified (forged) if they get close enough.

Originally posted by h1a8
How does that negate the fact that mass was being pulled and the chains supplied the tension force.
I can put gas in a container and pull the container with a string. The string is still experiencing the tension force required to pull the gas forward.

Lastly, you are still trying to argue against writer's intent. The chains pull the star straight up because the writer wanted that to be.

If you fart in a bottle and pull it with a string, the string will have the ability to pull the weight of the bottle. The fart would be virtually weightless. Apply that to the star where there’s no real weight relatively and it’s gravity field. Once negated by whatever plot device used to make it happen. At that point the chains are simply pulling the device which Is still a feat seeing as though It would atleast have to be half the size of the star to do its work unless it’s a full on energy thing, BUT we don’t have that information. If anything YOU’RE trying to add to his intent, his intent was that Superman broke chains that haul stars between galaxies. And that what was previously unbreakable to do so is no longer unbreakable.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
If you fart in a bottle and pull it with a string, the string will have the ability to pull the weight of the bottle. The fart would be virtually weightless. Apply that to the star where there’s no real weight relatively and it’s gravity field. Once negated by whatever plot device used to make it happen. At that point the chains are simply pulling the device which Is still a feat seeing as though It would atleast have to be half the size of the star to do its work unless it’s a full on energy thing, BUT we don’t have that information. If anything YOU’RE trying to add to his intent, his intent was that Superman broke chains that haul stars between galaxies. And that what was previously unbreakable to do so is no longer unbreakable.

Are one of these posters you FartBottler?




On top of which I earlier mentioned futuristic mechanisms that would need to be in place to haul stars. Because it’s not stated, NONE of it is. The only thing that is “true” was this chain was used to haul stars between galaxies. It’s also in the same statement to be unbreakable. Then it breaks.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
If you fart in a bottle and pull it with a string, the string will have the ability to pull the weight of the bottle. The fart would be virtually weightless. Apply that to the star where there’s no real weight relatively and it’s gravity field. Once negated by whatever plot device used to make it happen. At that point the chains are simply pulling the device which Is still a feat seeing as though It would atleast have to be half the size of the star to do its work unless it’s a full on energy thing, BUT we don’t have that information. If anything YOU’RE trying to add to his intent, his intent was that Superman broke chains that haul stars between galaxies. And that what was previously unbreakable to do so is no longer unbreakable.

The writers intent is that chains were used to pull the stars as stated in the comic. At this point you are trolling. Bran get him.

How are stars virtually mass less?
Stop using the iPhone apostrophe.

@spetznaz..

Because the guy who talked about the chains isn't reliable. He lied throughout the book.

Originally posted by h1a8
Wrong! It was the gravitational force of a neutron star. An object would weigh about 200 billion times more than they do on Earth. So the objects that landed on Thor is assumed to weigh 200 billion times more than normal (ignoring the fact that these objects were not even crushed by the gravitational force on Thor).
So we have trillions of tons in magnitude, which again isn't even planetary.

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Ah! I was mistaken between gravity and mass. Impressive feat nonetheless.

Originally posted by carver9
@spetznaz..

Because the guy who talked about the chains isn't reliable. He lied throughout the book.

how is he a liar if the chains were never broken before superman tried?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
If you fart in a bottle and pull it with a string, the string will have the ability to pull the weight of the bottle. The fart would be virtually weightless. Apply that to the star where there’s no real weight relatively and it’s gravity field. Once negated by whatever plot device used to make it happen. At that point the chains are simply pulling the device which Is still a feat seeing as though It would atleast have to be half the size of the star to do its work unless it’s a full on energy thing, BUT we don’t have that information. If anything YOU’RE trying to add to his intent, his intent was that Superman broke chains that haul stars between galaxies. And that what was previously unbreakable to do so is no longer unbreakable.

😂

Talk about being an idiot.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
On top of which I earlier mentioned futuristic mechanisms that would need to be in place to haul stars. Because it’s not stated, NONE of it is. The only thing that is “true” was this chain was used to haul stars between galaxies. It’s also in the same statement to be unbreakable. Then it breaks.
I bet you’re losing a lot of sleep trying to come up with excuses to lowball this. 😂

It doesn’t matter what kind of tech the had, the uses the word “haul”. Nothing advanced about that. SMh for calling the villain a liar.

That’s the dumbest argument I’ve seen so far. Why would he lie? The chains were never broken before so he’s not lying when he said that they were unbreakable. He just didn’t go against superman.

And then building robots that were stronger and faster than superman. Shows you that he must have scanned superman to get the limits of his abilities and then created the robots but that wasn’t enough because superman has dynamic strength. The more you try to lowball the better the feat looks.

😂 I actually get enjoyment from shitting on Superman every single time. For some odd reason you think I get annoyed by it or something. He WAS an liar, that’s not disputable. Superman’s feat is unquantifiable as it gives near to zero info and what info was given was very likely hyperbole meant to throw Clark off, I said once, and Ill say it again, that’s literally the overarching theme of up up and away. A bunch of people lying, or misleading Clark in an attempt to dissuade him from finding the girl. I mean we saw Zatanna dropping robots this alien claims were faster, stronger AND smarter than Superman. It’s more than likely he was either a blatant liar or the very commonly exhibited kind of stupid low tier bad guy who believes everything he has is greater than it actually is. That’s the FACTS of the matter, you being emotional about it isn’t going to change that 😎

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 I actually get enjoyment from shitting on Superman every single time. For some odd reason you think I get annoyed by it or something. He WAS an liar, that’s not disputable. Superman’s feat is unquantifiable as it gives near to zero info and what info was given was very likely hyperbole meant to throw Clark off, I said once, and Ill say it again, that’s literally the overarching theme of up up and away. A bunch of people lying, or misleading Clark in an attempt to dissuade him from finding the girl. I mean we saw Zatanna dropping robots this alien claims were faster, stronger AND smarter than Superman. It’s more than likely he was either a blatant liar or the very commonly exhibited kind of stupid low tier bad guy who believes everything he has is greater than it actually is. That’s the FACTS of the matter, you being emotional about it isn’t going to change that 😎

I don't think you know what indisputable means. And we know that you are a troll.

Maybe these stars aren’t moved within a lifetime and are towed by automated ships. It actually makes more sense than “we need star from galaxy A moved to galaxy B by Wednesday” Real common sense dictates that it’d be closer to terraforming, a project of several lifetimes, than it would be to moving furniture. There’s no information except that the chains are part of a mechanism to move stars. That’s the ONKY concrete info.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I don't think you know what indisputable means. And we know that you are a troll.
Yeah man deep down Superman is my favorite ugh! 😂 unfortunately welcome to the real world where everybody but you think the concept of Superman is “interesting” Or “relatable” Clown

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yeah man deep down Superman is my favorite ugh! 😂 unfortunately welcome to the real world where everybody but you think the concept of Superman is “interesting” Or “relatable” Clown

Uh-huh

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 I actually get enjoyment from shitting on Superman every single time. For some odd reason you think I get annoyed by it or something. He WAS an liar, that’s not disputable. Superman’s feat is unquantifiable as it gives near to zero info and what info was given was very likely hyperbole meant to throw Clark off, I said once, and Ill say it again, that’s literally the overarching theme of up up and away. A bunch of people lying, or misleading Clark in an attempt to dissuade him from finding the girl. I mean we saw Zatanna dropping robots this alien claims were faster, stronger AND smarter than Superman. It’s more than likely he was either a blatant liar or the very commonly exhibited kind of stupid low tier bad guy who believes everything he has is greater than it actually is. That’s the FACTS of the matter, you being emotional about it isn’t going to change that 😎

What’s hyperbolic about hauling stars between galaxies? The villain was so powerful that he was gonna take over the universe out of boredom.

In order to make something (A)greater than another(B) you will need all the specs of (b). He made the robots more powerful than Superman’s base. This another proof that superman has dynamic strength.

One last thing fartbottler, goes for the idiot troll carver too, Why would the writer of this book make this villain lie, it would defeat the purpose of the entire story.