Thor vs Aquaman [pure strength]

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Thor vs Aquaman [pure strength]

Let's have some fun.

No feats where Mjolnir is involved. No statements/hyperboles or relative showings [so, you can't use Aquaman against Wonder Woman, or Thor against Hulk and whatnot to steal their feats].

Post-Crisis/New 52/Rebirth feats.

Pure, physical object:

1). Lifting
2). Throwing.

I'm curious to see how many feats they have [most likely Thor] that are superior to one or the other.

I'll start with Aquaman throwing a submarine from the bottom of the ocean all the way to the surface:

This should be fun. 🙂

👆

Drown them all, Ocean Phil.

Thor is stronger but not by much.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor is stronger but not by much.

I don't recall Aquaman ever needing BENGAY haw-som

Geez it's almost like this was basically the arm wrestling match thread all over again.

The only difference being you made explicit what you already do anyways.

Originally posted by Newjak
Geez it's almost like this was basically the arm wrestling match thread all over again.

The only difference being you made explicit what you already do anyways.

Plus it's purer. The lack of 'scaling' feats means it's more empirical.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Plus it's purer. The lack of 'scaling' feats means it's more empirical.
Given the nature of how the character is written it is not purer. It is what has always been the case with these threads.

A way to undermine Thor by eliminating the bulk of his feats from being used.

It's a silly debate tactic that ignores these are comic books when it suits them.

It's not going to provide anything new. The same feats that were brought before will be brought up again. World engine, Herc and Thor arm wrestling. And the same nitpicks will be made over and over again.

It's boring at this point and almost a little pathetic.

Whole scene:

https://imgur.com/a/lVHMo44

😂

Oh yes and then low feats will come in to mock Thor because that's nothing new.

I think I remember why I stopped coming into these threads. Besides a few people here I generally enjoy talking to it's mostly just this type of thread now.

Shhhh.

Have some Bengay, NJ:

durthor durthor durthor durthor durthor durthor durthor durthor durthor

Originally posted by Newjak
Given the nature of how the character is written it is not purer. It is what has always been the case with these threads.

A way to undermine Thor by eliminating the bulk of his feats from being used.

It's a silly debate tactic that ignores these are comic books when it suits them.


Well in the arm wrestling thread, Iron Man (Model 1Mark3) was stalemating Thor in an arm wrestle. This is the same model that Tony built in a cave out of scraps, except it had a radio, a new paint job and groin protection.

Yet Thor was unable to defeat him. Scaling doesn't work, and you know it, especially with a character as popular as Thor. Given time, to give other characters a chance to shine, he will be written down and his average would be brought right down.

On the other hand, a ton is still a ton. You say it undermines Thor, given how he is written - but he's not being put up against Superman or even Hal Jordan. Aquaman isn't written as the strongman of the JLA. He doesn't go around pushing planets or lifting mountains. Most of his appearances he either has a weapon (trident) or literally one hand (with a hook).

Moreover, we are limited to post Crisis. So since 1985.

Thor has nearly 25 extra years of feats on him, with a lot more appearances, both due to comics being more popular back then and Thor being more popular.

Surely it can't be that hard to beat Aquaman.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Shhhh.

Have some Bengay, NJ:

durthor

Oh so clever. Make a simple attack on someone using cheap gags. Yup nothing new :yawn:

Why so serious?

Originally posted by Newjak
It's not going to provide anything new. The same feats that were brought before will be brought up again. World engine, Herc and Thor arm wrestling. And the same nitpicks will be made over and over again.

It's boring at this point and almost a little pathetic.

Well no, scaling feats aren't being used here, so no Herc feats.

See? It's already different.

Originally posted by Newjak
Oh so clever. Make a simple attack on someone using cheap gags. Yup nothing new :yawn:

"attack" 😂 😂 😂

Are you feeling well?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well in the arm wrestling thread, Iron Man (Model 1Mark3) was stalemating Thor in an arm wrestle. This is the same model that Tony built in a cave out of scraps, except it had a radio, a new paint job and groin protection.

Yet Thor was unable to defeat him. Scaling doesn't work, and you know it, especially with a character as popular as Thor. Given time, to give other characters a chance to shine, he will be written down and his average would be brought right down.

On the other hand, a ton is still a ton. You say it undermines Thor, given how he is written - but he's not being put up against Superman or even Hal Jordan. Aquaman isn't written as the strongman of the JLA. He doesn't go around pushing planets or lifting mountains. Most of his appearances he either has a weapon (trident) or literally one hand (with a hook).

Moreover, we are limited to post Crisis. So since 1985.

Thor has nearly 25 extra years of feats on him, with a lot more appearances, both due to comics being more popular back then and Thor being more popular.

Surely it can't be that hard to beat Aquaman.

That's the point though. We all know Thor is stronger and is intended to be far stronger

Yet he keeps getting put into threads to do nothing but undermine him by limiting his feats because well that's what a certain group wants to have happen.

Stipulations that remove half of his feats for the sake of undermining a character you don't like is boring and has been the status quo of these forums for years.

Like I've said before I wouldn't make a thread asking for feats of Superman where is power of flight has been turned off by an outside force because his power of flight makes it impossible to separate what his true strength level is.

It's silly and only serves as a crude debate tactic to make certain groups feel more clever then they are.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well no, scaling feats aren't being used here, so no Herc feats.

See? It's already different.

Not really because it's by nature an extension of an argument Philo already believes in. So it's the same tactic of removing things you don't like because you feel it makes your stance better.

It's not like the same people who don't mind it being eliminated as usable aren't the same people who already feel it doesn't count anyways.

Originally posted by Newjak
That's the point though. We all know Thor is stronger and is intended to be far stronger

Yet he keeps getting put into threads to do nothing but undermine him by limiting his feats because well that's what a certain group wants to have happen.

Stipulations that remove half of his feats for the sake of undermining a character you don't like is boring and has been the status quo of these forums for years.

Like I've said before I wouldn't make a thread asking for feats of Superman where is power of flight has been turned off by an outside force because his power of flight makes it impossible to separate what his true strength level is.

It's silly and only serves as a crude debate tactic to make certain groups feel more clever then they are.

Even removing half of his feats should still leave Thor with enough to destroy Aquaman's supporters in a feat war.

1. Thor has been around longer (~25 years more)
2. Thor is written as the 'strong guy' of the Avengers (along with Hulk). Aquaman is not.
3. Thor is more popular than Aquaman (by this I mean, he appears in more comics than Aquaman).
4. Yes, I agree that Thor has most of his appearances with Mjolnir in hand. Aquaman literally has most of his appearances with one hand. From 1994 onwards. And then, from 2011 onwards he had most of his appearances with a trident in hand.

So yeah, removing half of Thor's strengths feats should still leave him with plenty. Moreover, the thread specifically asks for LIFTING feats, which, unless Thor has three arms, most (all?) of these feats should have been accomplished without Mjolnir in hand anyway.