Thor vs Aquaman [pure strength]

Originally posted by Newjak
Based off of your replies I seriously doubt I am lol

Especially since you're jumping through hoops to not answer the questions

Fair enough /shrug

I'm not posting in here to convince you of anything, just like you're not posting in here to convince me of Thor's lifting feats.

Edit: I think Thor is much stronger than Aquaman. A full tier or two above. Superman level. I have actually said this before, too - I even said they were equals.

But yes, you come and post like you've never left, and act like I've got this thing against Thor, and that I think Aquaman is stronger than him 😂

Thor far above.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Thor far above.

Agreed.

But as (the only so far) Thor fan to post here - apart from Midgard and World Engine feats, is Newjak correct in saying that Thor has NO lifting feats that can trump Aquaman's?

That honestly feels wrong.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I meant that the perception of Aquaman isn't that he's a heavy hitter. By RL readers/DC public. Because he doesn't rack up the feats. Newjak is making out like Thor is going up against some poster boy of strength - when if you were to ask the average reader out there, hell, even if you ask most of the seasoned comic readers out there, Aquaman isn't ranking up as one of the strongest JLAers

In the Avengers, if you need a strong person, you go to Hulk and Thor. Maybe Hercules if he is around.

In the JLA, you have Supes, WW, J'onn, and then maybe Aquaman. And that's if Shazam isn't around.

I would argue that it only matters when the writers and the other heroes/enemies treat him as a heavy hitter. And they do.

shrug

Originally posted by -Pr-
I would argue that it only matters when the writers and the other heroes/enemies treat him as a heavy hitter. And they do.

shrug

As heavy a hitter as say, WW (ignoring Superman because that opens too much butthurt lol) and J'onn (also ignoring Shazam because he's meant to be a magical Supes)? And by extension....Thor?

So for example, it wouldn't be treated as a joke if WW was put up in a thread to armwrestle Aquaman? It would be a serious thread?

Then what about Thor?

I am arguing that Aquaman is not a heavy hitter in terms of strength like Thor is. To reiterate, Newjak is complaining as if Aquaman has a veritable laundry list of lifting strength feats, like he's called upon to be the lifter in the JLA. Whilst poor Thor ('Strongest Avenger!'😉 only has 2 that can trump him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
As heavy a hitter as say, WW (ignoring Superman because that opens too much butthurt lol) and J'onn (also ignoring Shazam because he's meant to be a magical Supes)? And by extension....Thor?

So for example, it wouldn't be treated as a joke if WW was put up in a thread to armwrestle Aquaman? It would be a serious thread?

Then what about Thor?

I am arguing that Aquaman is not a heavy hitter in terms of strength like Thor is. To reiterate, Newjak is complaining as if Aquaman has a veritable laundry list of lifting strength feats, like he's called upon to be the lifter in the JLA. Whilst poor Thor ('Strongest Avenger!'😉 only has 2 that can trump him.

Okay, full disclosure, I was being a bit pedantic. So I'll lay it out:

I don't consider Thor to be in Superman's bracket anymore. Not since DC essentially jumped the shark with the character.

Would I consider Thor to be Aquaman's superior though? Yes.

Do I consider Diana and J'onn to be Aquaman's superior in terms of pure strength? No. Not by any massive degree. Aquaman's super strength isn't a Geoff Johns invention. He just focused on it far more than any writer had in years.

I would argue he's definitely in the bracket of Diana and J'onn, but below Shazam and Thor, who are below Superman.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Fair enough /shrug

I'm not posting in here to convince you of anything, just like you're not posting in here to convince me of Thor's lifting feats.

Edit: I think Thor is much stronger than Aquaman. A full tier or two above. Superman level. I have actually said this before, too - I even said they were equals.

But yes, you come and post like you've never left, and act like I've got this thing against Thor, and that I think Aquaman is stronger than him 😂

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Agreed.

But as (the only so far) Thor fan to post here - apart from Midgard and World Engine feats, is Newjak correct in saying that Thor has [b]NO lifting feats that can trump Aquaman's?

That honestly feels wrong. [/B]

Midgard Serpent?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Okay, full disclosure, I was being a bit pedantic. So I'll lay it out:

I don't consider Thor to be in Superman's bracket anymore. Not since DC essentially jumped the shark with the character.

Would I consider Thor to be Aquaman's superior though? Yes.

Do I consider Diana and J'onn to be Aquaman's superior in terms of pure strength? No. Not by any massive degree. Aquaman's super strength isn't a Geoff Johns invention. He just focused on it far more than any writer had in years.

I would argue he's definitely in the bracket of Diana and J'onn, but below Shazam and Thor, who are below Superman.

Then that's all well and good, and Philo seems to be making a good showcase of Aquaman's strength (which is why, tbh, you should be supporting this thread as an Aquaman fan - not because I am saying you would be biased, but in the context that it is highlighting AM's strength feats for those of us who don't know them).

Originally posted by Newjak
Maybe I am incorrect but given the fact you were acting like you didn't understand the intention of this thread it led me to have doubts.

Whilst Philo can be aggressive and yes, wants to show that Thor is sh1t, I honestly thought that Thor would have more feats. Whatever Philo's intentions, I just wanted to see scans.

Like, celey/Rage/Dambo, hell even Carver, would be on this like a ton of bricks and we'd have a good back and forth of scans I had not seen, with scans not seen by most of us who don't keep up with the characters.

If there aren't, then whatever. If all Thor has are those two feats, then so be it. I thought Stilt and Philo were just being d1cks, lol - but haven't seen anything from Thor's camp to support that stance (in THIS instance, anyway).

Midgard serpent is long debunked.

Originally posted by Parmaniac
Midgard Serpent?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He has a bunch.

There we go. FINALLY.

Destroy Philo.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
That's one. Aquaman can only replicate that in his dreams. He will never overpower the midgard serpent.

Before the thread devolves into yet another back and forth about Midgard Serpent feat and the Wolrd Engine feat....what are these OTHER bunch of feats that trump Aquaman's?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Midgard serpent is long debunked.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
There we go. FINALLY.

Destroy Philo.

Im still waiting for Thor has street level speed bz.

But anyways, here..

Thor one hands a massive sea creature and throws it a great distance. No flying head start, no swimming head start. Just pure muscle. Did it with ease too like he was throwing a pebble.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Then that's all well and good, and Philo seems to be making a good showcase of Aquaman's strength (which is why, tbh, you should be supporting this thread as an Aquaman fan - not because I am saying you would be biased, but in the context that it is highlighting AM's strength feats for those of us who don't know them).

Whilst Philo can be aggressive and yes, wants to show that Thor is sh1t, [b]I honestly thought that Thor would have more feats. Whatever Philo's intentions, I just wanted to see scans.

Like, celey/Rage/Dambo, hell even Carver, would be on this like a ton of bricks and we'd have a good back and forth of scans I had not seen, with scans not seen by most of us who don't keep up with the characters.

If there aren't, then whatever. If all Thor has are those two feats, then so be it. I thought Stilt and Philo were just being d1cks, lol - but haven't seen anything from Thor's camp to support that stance (in THIS instance, anyway). [/B]

Originally posted by Parmaniac
How so?

Nooooooo I can't stand another fricking back and forth on this one (and the World Engine).

Just post the bunch of other feats Odindammnit!

Originally posted by Newjak
You've been here since 2011 what feats new feats are you expecting to see that you most likely haven't already?

In terms of lifting? Celey said he had some, apart from those accursed Midgard Serpent/World Engine feats.

So am expecting to see those.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Oh gawwwd. Phil? psh...

Im still waiting for Thor has street level speed bz.

But anyways, here..

Thor one hands a massive sea creature and throws it a great distance. No flying head start, no swimming head start. Just pure muscle. Did it with ease too like he was throwing a pebble.

'Spoosh' indeed!

Originally posted by Parmaniac
How so?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope, it was all magical bullshit. Even the letters page in Thor 331 said that.

Even in those days people called bullshit on this story.

😂

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

What a bunch of clowns. Midgard Serpent is outright stated to be invisible and intangible in that instance where Thor fished him out and he was doing the upheaval on Earth magically.

Now "ethereal" means "otherworldly".

😂