!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil298 pages
Originally posted by carver9
Hit stops time, Goku overpowers it. Put your tears away. You are to old for that.

I mean CDTM has a point, that's not actual timestop.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I mean CDTM has a point, that's not actual timestop.

Thank you.

If you can move, you aren't stopped. That's all I'm saying.

Hit must use some form of time dialation, that slows time to a near crawl, but doesn't completely stop it.

Originally posted by cdtm
Thank you.

If you can move, you aren't stopped. That's all I'm saying.

Hit must use some form of time dialation, that slows time to a near crawl, but doesn't completely stop it.

The way I see it, Zooms is kind of like a localised time stop. He doesn’t affect his surroundings instead he affects his immediate self allowing him to go forwards and back in time as choosing. Same with flash. Odin warps time itself on a grander scale. Same as how you’d expect Kang to do it but not on a scale as grand without use of a specific item.
Now Hit, I would say, fits into the localised time spectrum. But he does it in a very intriguing way. He can create shockwaves threw time with his hits (if I remember correctly) which is a rare sight for most time manipulators.

The thing is though Hit is a very well rounded character in regards to time manipulation because he can slow time to like 0.001 (or it might of been less) of his liking but that being said he can use his own ability to trap people in that same localised time. At the end of the day it’s only in a small space of his control

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I mean CDTM has a point, that's not actual timestop.

It is time stop though.

Originally posted by cdtm
Thank you.

If you can move, you aren't stopped. That's all I'm saying.

Hit must use some form of time dialation, that slows time to a near crawl, but doesn't completely stop it.

No, it completely stops time.

Originally posted by carver9
It is time stop though.
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My guy, Hit doesn't stop time, he skips it.
The stores the time he skips in his parallel dimensions which he enters when he skips time.
The only time stop he actually does is his hail mary move which he used on Jiren.

The easiest way to nullify Hit's ability is to simply overpower it if you are strong enough. His power is less effective on those near or at his level and is useless against someone of High Tier, It's how Power > Hax moment of DB.

Originally posted by carver9
Goku outsped time stop there. Im going to ask you again, are you ok? Also, why was everyone frozen here?

YouTube video

Hits ability is similar to one of Kangs devices which steals and relocates time in its choosing. Again not on a grand scale just in a targeted scaled

I mean, any way you slice it, Carver's effectively arguing if time on a grand scale is frozen, you can move fast enough to overpower it.

Like say, the Hourman Android froze the Big Bang of an alternate universe, indefinitely, using the Worlogog. I don't care how fast or powerful you are, that shouldn't be possible to overcome from within the time distortion, because it's essentially a snapshot at that point. The same way a photo image can never act outside its photo.

We can speculate how Hit's power works, but it certainly isn't macroscopic time freeze.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
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My guy, Hit doesn't stop time, he skips it.
The stores the time he skips in his parallel dimensions which he enters when he skips time.
The only time stop he actually does is his hail mary move which he used on Jiren.

The easiest way to nullify Hit's ability is to simply overpower it if you are strong enough. His power is less effective on those near or at his level and is useless against someone of High Tier, It's how Power > Hax moment of DB.

Everything with that dimension is stopped via time, at a halt. Lets not make up things.

Originally posted by carver9
Everything with that dimension is stopped via time, at a halt. Lets not make up things.

You're ignoring The fact He doesn't ACTUALLY stop time. He skips forward in time and then can store the time time he skips, letting it build up. He uses that time thats stored up to create his own personal realm in which when he enters, you only see a projected image of him but can't physically touch him. He also can put it on you so you can't move as you saw him do it on Jiren. But time doesn't actually stop. And only ones that are strong enough can break through that dimension or if you're fast enough to catch him before he time skips

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You're ignoring The fact He doesn't ACTUALLY stop time. He skips forward in time and then can store the time time he skips, letting it build up. He uses that time thats stored up to create his own personal realm in which when he enters, you only see a projected image of him but can't physically touch him. He also can put it on you so you can't move as you saw him do it on Jiren. But time doesn't actually stop. And only ones that are strong enough can break through that dimension or if you're fast enough to catch him before he time skips

Show me where you got that from.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me where you got that from.

I thought it was common sense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlxkwOfpA5c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-elYWVWM1_I

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I thought it was common sense

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlxkwOfpA5c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-elYWVWM1_I

When it comes to sense, Carver is far from common.

We call it "Carver sense".

Hit's time-skip is akin to Zoom's(Hunter's) ability... He essentially moves himself forward in time, which gives the appearance of haxx super-speed.

However, he can preform localized time-stops around his opponent(like he did to Jiren with the time cage.)

Originally posted by Galan007
Hit's time-skip is akin to Zoom's(Hunter's) ability... He essentially moves himself forward in time, which gives the appearance of haxx super-speed.

However, he can preform localized time-stops around his opponent(like he did to Jiren with the time cage.)

Eh, sort of. But Hit's version is far weaker than Zoom's. Zoom can forward himself in time however fast or slow he wants and for as long as he wants. But I suppose the two are similar.

Originally posted by Galan007
Hit's time-skip is akin to Zoom's(Hunter's) ability... He essentially moves himself forward in time, which gives the appearance of haxx super-speed.

However, he can preform localized time-stops around his opponent(like he did to Jiren with the time cage.)

Jiren powered out of it though.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Eh, sort of. But Hit's version is far weaker than Zoom's. Zoom can forward himself in time however fast or slow he wants and for as long as he wants. But I suppose the two are similar.
Indeed. Same concept, is all I was saying.

Originally posted by cdtm
Jiren powered out of it though.
That's Jiren, though.

Stop should be... stopped.

Hit does localized time distortions, maybe, but it couldn't be a full on stop if someone could power through it.

Your heart will stop soon.