!!!The Official Dragon Ball vs. Comics Thread!!!

Started by cdtm298 pages

Galactus lost to Thing.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What tier should Whis/Beerus be considered in DC/Marvel


The problem with ranking them in Marvel and DC is that they don't have the reality warping abilities that come with being a cosmic being in either Marvel or DC. The power of cosmic characters in comics also tend to fluctuate a lot more.

Although I like to think of Beerus as a cat version of Galactus because they're both purple and they maintain some kind of balance through destruction.

In DC Comics they're around Highfather and Darkseid.

Originally posted by Galan007
I don't even know, tbh.

Beerus was already on the higher-end cosmic level during BoG... And even now, the implication is that he's still above MUI Goku.

And Whis is so far above Beerus that he can KO him with a casual chop.

Odin level probably?

Originally posted by Astner
The problem with ranking them in Marvel and DC is that they don't have the reality warping abilities that come with being a cosmic being in either Marvel or DC. The power of cosmic characters in comics also tend to fluctuate a lot more.

Although I like to think of Beerus as a cat version of Galactus because they're both purple and they maintain some kind of balance through destruction.

In DC Comics they're around Highfather and Darkseid.

I think Beerus would curbstomp Darkseid.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Odin level probably?
Beerus would stomp Odin in a fight, imo.

Originally posted by Astner
The problem with ranking them in Marvel and DC is that they don't have the reality warping abilities that come with being a cosmic being in either Marvel or DC. The power of cosmic characters in comics also tend to fluctuate a lot more.

Although I like to think of Beerus as a cat version of Galactus because they're both purple and they maintain some kind of balance through destruction.

In DC Comics they're around Highfather and Darkseid.

The angels can warp any reality and create things on a whim. Whis can also rewind time

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I think Beerus would curbstomp Darkseid.

I was thinking more along the lines of Pre-Crisis Darkseid, but from what I keep hearing he wasn't subject to the Crisis. Then there's Morrison's idea of a disembodied Darkseid.

Besides I don't think you can push Beerus and Whis to the level of Parallax Hal or Classic Ion, which is the next step on the cosmic ladder in DC.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
The angels can warp any reality and create things on a whim. Whis can also rewind time

Yeah, but the time reversal is only for a minute or something like that.

Odin has too many esoteric powers Beerus doesn't have an answer for. His TP alone is on a cosmic scale, blowing away BaBidi, the strongest telepath in DB.

Odin also uses magic, which Dragon Ball Ki has no defense against.

Goku vs Loki and Thor

The team. With Loki's magic and Mjolnir, Goku would be neutralized from the start.

Originally posted by Galan007
Beerus would stomp Odin in a fight, imo.

Originally posted by cdtm
Odin has too many esoteric powers Beerus doesn't have an answer for. His TP alone is on a cosmic scale, blowing away BaBidi, the strongest telepath in DB.

Odin also uses magic, which Dragon Ball Ki has no defense against.

Yeah I know Odin is no joke. But I feel marvel doesn't make Odin so powerful that he uses a small insignificant amount of his power to blow a planet with ease

Originally posted by Astner
The problem with ranking them in Marvel and DC is that they don't have the reality warping abilities that come with being a cosmic being in either Marvel or DC. The power of cosmic characters in comics also tend to fluctuate a lot more.

Although I like to think of Beerus as a cat version of Galactus because they're both purple and they maintain some kind of balance through destruction.

In DC Comics they're around Highfather and Darkseid.

Galactus have lost against beings who never showed reality warping abilities. A simple blitz through Galactus skull before he registered what was going on would end the fight and yes, Beerus is quick enough to do this. Galactus can't withstand an attack from a suppressed Beerus. He would die immediately from a Beerus that is trying to kill him. Its a non fight.

You have Kais in DB creating planets and life and Super Saiyan Goku is above them. Creation means nothing when it comes to who can beat who in DB.

It does matter in comics.

And the rules of ki in Dragon Ball and comics is incompatible. Ki is magical in DC and Marvel, but it is not in Dragon Ball, as proven by the multiple times a distinction is made in the series (Such as Babidi's magic, or Baba's.)

This means it can't be assumed ki defense can block high end magic or spells.

Conversely, Marvel and DC have multiple feats of overcoming physical powers and energies.

Originally posted by Astner
I was thinking more along the lines of Pre-Crisis Darkseid, but from what I keep hearing he wasn't subject to the Crisis. Then there's Morrison's idea of a disembodied Darkseid.

Besides I don't think you can push Beerus and Whis to the level of Parallax Hal or Classic Ion, which is the next step on the cosmic ladder in DC.

Yeah, but the time reversal is only for a minute or something like that.

That’s a big deal

Originally posted by cdtm
It does matter in comics.

And the rules of ki in Dragon Ball and comics is incompatible. Ki is magical in DC and Marvel, but it is not in Dragon Ball, as proven by the multiple times a distinction is made in the series (Such as Babidi's magic, or Baba's.)

This means it can't be assumed ki defense can block high end magic or spells.

Conversely, Marvel and DC have multiple feats of overcoming physical powers and energies.

Has Odin destroyed a planet with an flicker of his finger?

Originally posted by cdtm
It does matter in comics.

And the rules of ki in Dragon Ball and comics is incompatible. Ki is magical in DC and Marvel, but it is not in Dragon Ball, as proven by the multiple times a distinction is made in the series (Such as Babidi's magic, or Baba's.)

This means it can't be assumed ki defense can block high end magic or spells.

Conversely, Marvel and DC have multiple feats of overcoming physical powers and energies.

Show me Galactus overcoming physical attacks from someone as powerful as Beerus.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me Galactus overcoming physical attacks from someone as powerful as Beerus.

Show me Beerus ovecoming magic from someone as powerful as Odin.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Has Odin destroyed a planet with an flicker of his finger?

Has Beerus resisted having his soul ripped out?

Originally posted by cdtm
Show me Beerus ovecoming magic from someone as powerful as Odin.

Odin gets blitzed and erased afterwards. He doesnt need to overcome it because it'll never happen. So again, show me Galactus standing in one spot tanking physical attacks from someone like Beerus.