Originally posted by AstnerLol, that was such a random asspull. It still doesn't make sense to me.
Goku is technically a telepath himself.Chapter 279.
You could also argue that the Saiyans eventually gained the ability to power through TP to some extent -- like when Vegeta overrode Babidi's control over him, cuz Saiyan pride:
But carv is using pre-Z Goku here. Can't recall if he had any TP-esque showings back then.
Originally posted by carver9
Remember Dark, the contestants start 10 ft from each other. If Ambrose can survive the initial blitz, then sure. I don't think Ambrose can though. A punch, let alone a blast would take Ambrose out before gaining a chance to conjure a thought or let alone move.
But why would TPs be able to do it and not Ambrose (who is a dude)?
Originally posted by carver9
TP can do it but I never said anyone with TP can. Just someone who can survive the initial blitz during the onset of the battle.
Yeah but if they're fast enough to put a shield up, then you're sure they can counter him is what you said (with an attack).
So if a telepath is fast enough to put a shield up (with a thought), why wouldn't Ambrose be fast enough to slow him down (with a thought)? Unless you are thinking of speedsters with tp powers (like MMH)?
If you subscribe to the idea a human telepath can do it, then Ambrose can too. Or at least, as Galan says, if MOST telepaths can do it, then he can too (with the majority of telepaths being humans).
Essentially: if speed of (human) thought is fast enough to react to him, then any comic character with thought based attacks (Invisible Woman, Ambrose, telepaths in general) would win.
That's the thing, I never said any telepath could do it or is fast enough to do it. Goku, especially anime version moves faster than thought. I specifically used this version (anime) for a reason. I mentioned to Galan that telepathy could work, I never said who could do it. Maybe Despero but could he survive a moon busting attack in his face?
Originally posted by carver9
That's the thing, I never said any telepath could do it or is fast enough to do it. Goku, especially anime version moves faster than thought. I specifically used this version (anime) for a reason. I mentioned to Galan that telepathy could work, I never said who could do it. Maybe Despero but could he survive a moon busting attack in his face?
Buu Saga is when you get to global telepath resistance.
Babadi communicated with the entire earth. He casually controlled people, and killed them by exploding their mind.
Vegeta, while under the Majin domination, told him to **** off.
Originally posted by Galan007
All I'm saying is that if Goku didn't insta-blitz any decently competent telepath immediately at the onset, and gave them a chance to mindphuck him... He'd screwed. He simply has NO resistance to that kind of attack.
👆 and I was responding to that asking if other characters with thought based attacks could do the same.
Not sure why Carvy then tried to jump in.
Originally posted by Galan007
All I'm saying is that if Goku didn't insta-blitz any decently competent telepath immediately at the onset, and gave them a chance to mindphuck him... He'd screwed. He simply has NO resistance to that kind of attack.
I agree with this. In this situation though (not saying you're saying anything different than what I am about to say, Galan), Goku is trying to take whomever out, quickly.
Also, this version of Goku tanked this...
This would be a high end ft for most Heralds tbh. Also, this was Jr dipping all of his power into one attack. It's basically greater than Roshi moon busting attack.
