Originally posted by carver9
So if Superman blitzed over and pushed a pole through at super speed, before Aquarian had the chance to expand his field, he could win?
If the pole was long enough (remember his field extends ten feet away from him) and none of the person (yes yes I know why you're using Superman, hoping to influence me lol) touched the field, I can see people arguing that.
OTOH, the field negates all energy above the threshold. So even if Flash and Superman were on the other side pushing, they're a single entity with the pole, as it were. It would just stop in midair. If they kept pushing it wouldn't do anything. Anything that enters the field has its energy negated.
Maybe if it was a multiversal entity pushing, that could override the field.
Edit: your example is like ramming a car into Aquarian, and arguing that only the bumper of the car gets negated, not the entire car (lol). Doesn't work like that
Or that only Cap's fist gets its momentum stopped, not the rest of him.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85But is the field greater than the speed force DS 😉
If the pole was long enough (remember his field extends ten feet away from him) and none of the person (yes yes I know why you're using Superman, hoping to influence me lol) touched the field, I can see people arguing that.OTOH, the field negates all energy above the threshold. So even if Flash and Superman were on the other side pushing, they're a single entity with the pole, as it were. It would just stop in midair. If they kept pushing it wouldn't do anything. Anything that enters the field has its energy negated.
Maybe if it was a multiversal entity pushing, that could override the field.
Edit: your example is like ramming a car into Aquarian, and arguing that only the bumper of the car gets negated, not the entire car (lol). Doesn't work like that
Or that only Cap's fist gets its momentum stopped, not the rest of him.
Yeah I'm getting that vibe. But even then, they'll just ignore it and move on to the next goalpost.
Carver started this week swearing blind that Goku would start the fight with an instablitz, lol. His ultra speed (despite him not using it in the fight that Carver is using as the main version).
Faster than sunlight as a kid, needs to be always on, Goku is super fast etc etc.
Then in this fight, he's now...... hanging back from a safe distance and blasting lol. Carv's starting to think about throwing stuff (lol). Then maybe..... swinging things?
But against Fantomex, despite not knowing a thing about him, Goku is flying in and blitzing lol.
Carv's just mad I set him up with his arguments which would fail against Wundarr
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah I'm getting that vibe. But even then, they'll just ignore it and move on to the next goalpost.Carver started this week swearing blind that Goku would start the fight with an instablitz, lol. His ultra speed (despite him not using it in the fight that Carver is using as the main version).
Faster than sunlight as a kid, needs to be always on, Goku is super fast etc etc.
Then in this fight, he's now...... hanging back from a safe distance and blasting lol. Carv's starting to think about throwing stuff (lol). Then maybe..... swinging things?
But against Fantomex, despite not knowing a thing about him, Goku is flying in and blitzing lol.
Carv's just mad I set him up with his arguments which would fail against Wundarr
I was completely consistent on Fantomex and Aquarian. He's much much faster, so yes, he'd Insta blitz Fantomex.
Aquarian, he'd learn something is up and adapt. Like he HAS in most of his major fights.
Tenshinhan uses solar flare and quad body. Goku learns not to need his vision, and figures out the trick to quad body is dividing up his power level by four.
Goku fights Android #19 who can absorb ki. Sends out a ki blast, it gets absorbed, Goku learns to change tactics.
Goku fights another enemy that absorbs light sources. Depowers his SSJ form by literally eating his light glow. Goku adapts and defeats him.
I mean, he's not an idiot. And he isn't a one trick pony, he actually has some experiences with exotic attacks, teleportation, transmutation attacks. Hit froze time for an instant, and that combined with his speed let him alpha strike with impunity. Crushed Vegeta, Goku figured his trick out.
Sure, those experiences aren't learned HERE, but they DO show he has the wits to deal with new situations.