Originally posted by DoNotBanpls
2↑↑2=2↑2↑2=2↑2²=2⁴=16
You might as well use Conway's chained arrow notation or the fast-growing hierarchy for the base expression 2 and 4 to then extrapolate it into a massive number.
And what about the fifty times multiplier for the regular Super Saiyan form? You're not accounting for that.
Amazing video about Goku strength and power, even as a kid (5 hours long vid though). I did not know that it was confirmed via on panel evidence that Piccolo (junior) TANKED a moon busting blast. Brushed it off. He was weak AF during this era. I'm just amazed. That's herald level crap. I also forgot that Kami rebuilt the moon.
Also, kid Goku punched someone so hard that their body broke the pages of the manga.
If Odin was the same level as Whis, he doesn't make top strongest battle powers.
1. Zarama (The God not the Dragon; he created the Super Dragon Balls and only Fortune Teller knew about them given they can undo what Zeno did and vice versa Zarama is easily #1)
2. Grand Priest (Manga states he's the strongest in this world that Whis knows about)
3 & 4: Zeno's Guardians (Despite Zeno's unrivaled universal damage capacity he needs guards because he can't even follow the Gods of Destruction with his eyes)
5. According to that Manga Kusu is the strongest Angel
Also SSJ3 was just from increased S cells, Vegeta has Ikari (which gave him Ultra Ego) and still didn't get SSJ3 because it requires unlimited stamina to unlock those extra S cells (like android 17 but Goku in other world). So there's no limit to the number of S cells, but following that pattern of Knuth's ↑ notation:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuth%27s_up-arrow_notation
SSJ2 is just x2, SSJ3 is exponential from SSJ2 x2², but SSJ4 would smack Zeno and Zarama because it's tetration.
a(n)b, 2↑↑2=2(2²)2 aka 2²↑↑(n-1) (or 3 more 2s)=2↑2↑2² (2^2^2^2) (two squared, two squared times).
Vegeta's the type of guy to unlock a new form and get his ass kicked and made irrelevant again in the same day.
He is terrible at winning fights but ironically may go down as the best support character in anime history.
Every time he sacrifices a little energy to get Goku back in the game it seems to do wonders.
I'm done rooting for this useless piece of shit. I pin all my hopes on Gohan to rid the world of Goku's progressive stupidity. Never have I seen a character have as much backward motion in intelligence as Goku.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Yeah Goku's a phucking idiot. And if we were going to get Gas as a villain, what was the harm in letting ultra ego Vegeta beat Granohla lol ?
Because then it would be slightly less humiliating for Vegeta instead of maximally humiliating, which is what they are going for.
In this arc we had Vegeta unlock a new form that is instantly obsolete because it's flat out worse than MUI and then he loses to two villains back to back after getting said new form, and then his no heart having ass gives some of his energy to Goku to give him a second wind.
The man is useless in fights.
The only thing that could complete the humiliation is if he uses a self destruct against Gas that does no damage and only serves as a distraction so that Goku can win with a normal ass Kamehameha.
Being a Vegeta fan is almost as detrimental to your mental health as being a Thor fan. No cap.