Presidential debates thread!
because I can't find the original.
Trump showed himself as the foul, weak, bully he is. Joe looked far better. Trump really crashed and burned in debate 1.
I don't think even the inherent inequality of the electoral college can save him at this point.
He appealed to the far right like the proud boys, he basically said he won't go quietly if he loses.
He has no respect for the American people.
History will not be kind to Trumpers.
November is coming... Soon!
The debate was far from the political showdown of the century. Unsurprising, given the two choices. There was a lot of waffling, and I'm hoping that way more of the climate problems comes up in the next one.
President Trump was seemingly getting frazzled with Joe Biden's sort of laughing off his more obvious lies or petty responses. Honestly I think it was a pretty effective way of unsettling him. Of course, Biden is no whip up there, but I think an honest tactic could just be letting Trump tire himself out with his refusal to accept responsibilities for things and using weird hypotheticals, and then just like giving The Jim face to the camera.
My political leanings aside, it's hard for me to feel like Joe Biden didn't show himself to be a much more caring person up there, and he comes off as more mature than President Trump did.
The one thing that did honestly shock me and probably shouldn't have though, was the "Stand Back and Stand By" thing to the proud boys. Like, it would be so easy to just disavow this kind of shit and he just like, can NOT do it. Like he starts sweating when faced with it. It's just so disheartening, not even politically, I mean that as like, a human person.
Originally posted by Quincy
Oh sorry mate, I should have explained.The Proud Boys are a Far-Right Neo-Fascist Group that promotes and engages in political violence. I can link you some video stuff on them as well if you're interested in learning more about them.
Far right? so.
Violent? Not nearly as violent as other groups active right now in North America. But the media has painted them as "white supremacists" when the leader is Hispanic and they have black members?
Maybe stop relying on CNN to tell you who they are and in fact pay attention to what they do and their membership?
Originally posted by Quincy
Oh sorry mate, I should have explained.The Proud Boys are a Far-Right Neo-Fascist Group that promotes and engages in political violence. I can link you some video stuff on them as well if you're interested in learning more about them.
Which Proud Boy groups destroyed most of the major American cities?
Originally posted by JohnnyRotton
Maybe stop relying on CNN to tell you who they are and in fact pay attention to what they do and their membership?
I don't rely on CNN, why would you make that assumption? I don't get involved in conversations like this without researching these things independently, that wouldn't be very rational.
I don't mean this in a confronting way, but why are you being defensive over them? Maybe you aren't and I'm just getting that vibe.
Originally posted by snowdragonYeah,
Now our media outlets are going to play gotcha moments to act as if someone won, actually Murika lost after the few clips I've watched, I knew it was going to be a clown show though.
Trump made sure you lost.