Man from mostly peaceful religion decapitates teacher over Muhammad cartoons

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Depictions of Holy Prophet (PBUH) is a forbidden practice in Islam. What makes you think that Muslims will allow others to adopt this practice and get away with it?

Your bigotry against Muslims is apparent in your posting record. Your absolute lack of understanding of Islam is also glaringly apparent in your posting record.

You have no moral high ground or leg to stand upon for judging Muslims given the sheer amount of hypocrisy, blatant disregard of human lives, and interventionist Foreign Policy of USA which helped prepare extremist Salafi Jihadi forces which your country ended-up fighting eventually.

You are fishing for trouble with your lengthy history of hate speech directed towards Islam and Muslims. My advice is to keep your bigotry to yourself.

All kinds of lines are crossed in the education, entertainment, and political, and mass media spheres. "Sacred cows" are slaughtered every day.

It's simply accepted that being offended does not justify violence. Scathing words, yes. Lawsuits, perhaps. Physical attack, rarely (Of course there are cases of leniency, but those are rare and never for a death.)

It's telling that South Park was unable to offend Muslims, while being free to offend every other major religion, including Judaism.

Originally posted by cdtm
All kinds of lines are crossed in the education, entertainment, and political, and mass media spheres. "Sacred cows" are slaughtered every day.

There is a reason why LAWS and/or RULES are created and enforced to help manage organizations and run entire countries by extension. People are expected to respect these LAWS and/or RULES or there will be limitless CHAOS.

Cow is an animal but a Muslim can avoid slaughtering it in front of Hindu neighbors (if any) or seek their permission beforehand. I can make do with consuming other livestock animals such as goats and sheep anyways.

Originally posted by cdtm
It's simply accepted that being offended does not justify violence. Scathing words, yes. Lawsuits, perhaps. Physical attack, rarely (Of course there are cases of leniency, but those are rare and never for a death.)

I do not condone and support resorting to violence for addressing a social problem in personal capacity but I firmly believe in self-defense and the least I expect from others is not to insult me and my religious convictions on a regular basis. I can forgive one-offs and would prefer to reason with somebody who does not understand Islam to make him/her feel better. However, my patience have limits which I am sure is true for anybody here.

Protests and Law-suits are better routes indeed.

Originally posted by cdtm
It's telling that South Park was unable to offend Muslims, while being free to offend every other major religion, including Judaism.

I am strong advocate of inter-faith harmony.

Once a sizable majority of Muslims can finally admit that Mohammed(pig-shit be upon him) was a vicious, evil man whose example should not be emulated and whose image should not be guarded with infantile zeal, then perhaps proper inter-faith dialogue can finally begin.

Originally posted by Raptor22
personally im pro death penalty but it actually costs a shit ton more to sentence someone to death and go thru the entire process to completion than to keep them in prison for life.

"It seems like common sense that it’s cheaper to execute someone than to house, feed and take care of them for the rest of their natural life. But there are a lot of unavoidable costs that make a death sentence far more expensive than a sentence of life without parole.

Most of these costs result from the unique status of the death penalty within the US justice system. Because it’s the only truly irreversible form of punishment, the Constitution requires a long and complex judicial process for capital cases, including several levels of mandatory review after a death sentence is issued. The appeals process takes decades to complete."

"Studies of the California death penalty system, the largest in the US, have revealed that a death sentence costs at least 18 times as much as a sentence of life without parole would cost."

It makes me wonder how freaking much do these appellate judges make that makes the process of hearing these cases cost up to 18x more than it would to feed/cloth/house these people for their entire lives.

This is why I think we need to tighten the evidence required to sentence someone to death, we need to be sure. And then we need to streamline the process of execution. No more taking 10-15 years to do appeal after appeal.

Take this scenario and have it be the exact same except the terrorist is arrested. Witnesses witnessed him behead a dude. And I'm sure forensics will show his prints on the murder weapon, etc. Pretty open and shut. He should be executed within 3 months of being found guilty unless his lawyers can come up with an extraordinary reason not to, some groundbreaking evidence to suggest they aren't guilty.

Well he didn't kill anyone for the vast majority of his life and then killed someone so I guess that can be classified as mostly peaceful.

@ArtificialGlory

Disgusting people like you are the reason why incidents such as the one being highlighted in this thread are happening. Even good/peace-loving Muslims will not put up with this nonsense for indefinite period.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Well he didn't kill anyone for the vast majority of his life and then killed someone so I guess that can be classified as mostly peaceful.

*channeling CNN* Plus the teachers body was mostly intact. That has to count for something. What does a head weigh, like 8 lbs? Some people might be glad to drop 8 lbs in an instant.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
@ArtificialGlory

Disgusting people like you are the reason why incidents such as the one being highlighted in this thread are happening. Even good/peace-loving Muslims will not put up with this nonsense for indefinite period.

So, you don't believe in free will?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
@ArtificialGlory

Disgusting people like you are the reason why incidents such as the one being highlighted in this thread are happening. Even good/peace-loving Muslims will not put up with this nonsense for indefinite period.

When I first read this post I thought you meant the peaceful muslims wouldn't put up with nonsense like killing people over cartoons.

Now I realize you were suggesting even "peaceful" muslims have a breaking point when it comes to how much shit you can talk about Muhammad. Which means they aren't peaceful or good actually and it is quite the chilling statement.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
@ArtificialGlory

Disgusting people like you are the reason why incidents such as the one being highlighted in this thread are happening. Even good Muslims will not put up with this nonsense for long.

Tell me, if you please, what happens when even the most liberal and tolerant of Westerners decide that enough is enough?

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

How many times must one talk shit about Muhammad before a "good" muslim becomes not so good?

If you can be turned into a Terrorist because someone criticizes your religion and/or Prophet, you were a horrible person to begin with.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I'm disgusting for pointing out historical facts? Disgusting for pointing out that the desert pirate that you call a prophet was a horrible man unworthy of any sort of veneration? So what are these "good Muslims" going to do, then? Go on a beheading rampage against anyone who dares exercise their freedom of speech?

Tell me, if you please, what happens when even the most liberal and tolerant of Westerners decide that enough is enough?

Horrible man? Take a good look at the leaders you guys have been producing over the course of years. Bunch of Hypocrites + Morally Bankrupt + Imperialists.

If I decide to make fun of Holocaust victims, how would they feel? It is important to distinguish Freedom of Expression from Hate Speech.

The fundamental premise of Freedom of Expression is to be in raise your voice against corruption and oppression - a challenge that credible journalists have had to struggle with for a long time, and still do in numerous countries.

People like you are being GROOMED for HATE SPEECH instead - this is not Freedom of Expression. Do not complain when blow-back comes for real.

"Any kind of communication in speech, writing or behaviour, that attacks or uses pejorative or discriminatory language with reference to a person or a group on the basis of who they are, in other words, based on their religion, ethnicity, nationality race, colour, descent, gender or other identity factor." - United Nations

https://theconversation.com/there-are-differences-between-free-speech-hate-speech-and-academic-freedom-and-they-matter-124764

Originally posted by Surtur
How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

How many times must one talk shit about Muhammad before a "good" muslim becomes not so good?

Your enemies are multiplying otherwise. Sooner or later this reality will dawn on you egotistical morally bankrupt morons.

And these new set of enemies are terrifying - absolutely capable of blowing American cities to smithereens from afar, mind you.

You people are taking Muslim generosity for granted. Please step out from your hubris for your own good.

IOW, your stance is. "That woman was wearing a short skirt. so she deserved to be raped".

Originally posted by Silent Master
IOW, your stance is. "That woman was wearing a short skirt. so she deserved to be raped".

Do not try to conflate HATE SPEECH with Freedom of Expression.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Spare me this rubbish.

Do not try to conflate HATE SPEECH with Freedom of Expression.

IOW, the skirt was indecently short. thus she was asking for it.

Wait, is that what S_W_LeGenD believes?

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Tell me something - is a Prophet responsible for YOUR miseries and failures in life?

Horrible man? Take a good look at the leaders you guys have been producing over the course of years. Bunch of Hypocrites + Morally Bankrupt + Imperialists.

If I decide to make fun of Holocaust victims, how would they feel? It is important to distinguish Freedom of Expression from Hate Speech.

The fundamental premise of Freedom of Expression is to be in raise your voice against corruption and oppression - a challenge that credible journalists have had to struggle with for a long time, and still do in numerous countries.

People like you are being GROOMED for HATE SPEECH instead - this is not Freedom of Expression. Do not complain when blow-back comes for real.

"Any kind of communication in speech, writing or behaviour, that attacks or uses pejorative or discriminatory language with reference to a person or a group on the basis of who they are, in other words, based on their religion, ethnicity, nationality race, colour, descent, gender or other identity factor." - United Nations

https://theconversation.com/there-are-differences-between-free-speech-hate-speech-and-academic-freedom-and-they-matter-124764

Funny you should say that, considering that Mohammad was a morally bankrupt, hypocritical imperialist. While most Western leaders, on the other hand, did a great deal to combat imperialism and have made tremendous strides in de-colonization in the last 100 years. Hell, even the American support for the Taliban was largely to combat Soviet imperialism.

Saying hateful, offensive things is still freedom of expression; mocking religious figures is one of the main cornerstones of freedom of expression in the Western world, especially France. So yes, you should be allowed to mock the victims of the Holocaust. Remember, 'hate speech' is still freedom of speech.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
You people are taking Muslim generosity for granted.

LOL.