Man from mostly peaceful religion decapitates teacher over Muhammad cartoons

Started by Old Man Whirly!16 pages

He's right to a point as far as medieval warlords went Mohammad was a very, very kind statesman. Equality and other people being allowed to pay tithes to worship their own religion within his communities was almost unheard of. Tbh, a lot of modern versions of Islam are more extreme than that Mohammad himself preached. As for child brides, they were going in US states until quite recently when did it stop being 11 in states. Ffs Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13-year-old cousin not that long ago. The youngest queen consort in English history was Isabella of Valois, who married Richard II when she was 6 years, 358 days old in 1396. Richard was 29 at the time. This was 600+ years after Mohammad and a Christian monarch.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
He's right to a point as far as medieval warlords went Mohammad was a very, very kind statesman. Equality and other people being allowed to pay tithes to worship their own religion within his communities was almost unheard of. Tbh, a lot of modern versions of Islam are more extreme than that Mohammad himself preached. As for child brides, they were going in US states until quite recently when did it stop being 11 in states. Ffs Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13-year-old cousin not that long ago. The youngest queen consort in English history was Isabella of Valois, who married Richard II when she was 6 years, 358 days old in 1396. Richard was 29 at the time. This was 600+ years after Mohammad and a Christian monarch.

Yeah he'd murder you for writing a bad poem about him, but if you gave him half your shit he would indeed not enslave or kill you.

Charming.

Also it's disingenuous to bring up child brides in the US in the past since people here aren't worshiping someone who had one.

Shit we cancel people who owned slaves.

Lol. How did Big M feel about slavery?

Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah he'd murder you for writing a bad poem about him, but if you gave him half your shit he would indeed not enslave or kill you.

Charming.

😆 😆

Originally posted by Silent Master
Would the "good man" Muhammad approve of those murdering in his name?

Holy Prophet (PBUH) have substantial HISTORY of forgiving some of the worst enemies of Islam including those who conspired to kill him.

FYI: https://www.al-islam.org/forgiveness-islam/some-examples-pardons-made-prophet-and-imams

Islam did not spread with magic - Holy Prophet (PBUH) set examples of kindness and tolerance in his teachings and had to endure lot of hardships in the process.

It is easy for morally bankrupt people to question his morals and struggles in this age - what kind of world WE live in.

Originally posted by Surtur
Also it's disingenuous to bring up child brides in the US in the past since people here aren't worshiping someone who had one.

Shit we cancel people who owned slaves.

Lol. How did Big M feel about slavery?

Muhammad's approach to slavery as reformist rather than revolutionary. He did not set out to abolish slavery, but rather to improve the conditions of slaves by urging his followers to treat their slaves humanely and free them as a way of expiating one's sins. Which for Warlords at the time was better than most. Like I say for the time he was a reformer.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Holy Prophet (PBUH) have substantial HISTORY of forgiving some of the worst enemies of Islam including those who conspired to kill him.

FYI: https://www.al-islam.org/forgiveness-islam/some-examples-pardons-made-prophet-and-imams

Islam did not spread with magic - Holy Prophet (PBUH) set examples of kindness and tolerance in his teachings and had to endure lot of hardships in the process.

It is easy for morally bankrupt people to question his morals and struggles in this age - what kind of world WE live in.

At best you're proving Muhammad was bi-polar

No matter how many times you can call a turd "Holy" it still won't actually make it so... just sayin'. 😉

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Holy Prophet (PBUH) have substantial HISTORY of forgiving some of the worst enemies of Islam including those who conspired to kill him.

FYI: https://www.al-islam.org/forgiveness-islam/some-examples-pardons-made-prophet-and-imams

Islam did not spread with magic - Holy Prophet (PBUH) set examples of kindness and tolerance in his teachings and had to endure lot of hardships in the process.

It is easy for morally bankrupt people to question his morals and struggles in this age - what kind of world WE live in.

Pretty much he was a product of the time, but he was far better than most others of that time. Traditional Islam does believe in mercy in a way European Christianity at the time did not.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Muhammad's approach to slavery as reformist rather than revolutionary. He did not set out to abolish slavery, but rather to improve the conditions of slaves by urging his followers to treat their slaves humanely and free them as a way of expiating one's sins. Which for Warlords at the time was better than most. Like I say for the time he was a reformer.

Lol. Just listen to yourself.

Why does Muhammad get a pass on slavery but not others? George Washington didn't treat his slaves bad either. He also didn't murder people who wrote bad things about him.

This bi polar serial killer you're choosing to defend is not worth it.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
He's right to a point as far as medieval warlords went Mohammad was a very, very kind statesman. Equality and other people being allowed to pay tithes to worship their own religion within his communities was almost unheard of. Tbh, a lot of modern versions of Islam are more extreme than that Mohammad himself preached. As for child brides, they were going in US states until quite recently when did it stop being 11 in states. Ffs Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13-year-old cousin not that long ago. The youngest queen consort in English history was Isabella of Valois, who married Richard II when she was 6 years, 358 days old in 1396. Richard was 29 at the time. This was 600+ years after Mohammad and a Christian monarch.

I believe some states still allow as young as 15.

This leads to bizarre circumstances where a legally married couple could end up on the sex offender registry for recordings or pictures taken on their honeymoon.

Even 15 is not 9

Originally posted by Surtur
Even 15 is not 9
Yeah, it's not 6 either. The Medieval world is not now. The US now, is not Africa now.

Originally posted by Surtur
Even 15 is not 9

Yeah, I wanna see some actual proof that our founders married and had sex with girls under ten years old as the pedo apologist is claiming.

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Holy Prophet (PBUH) have substantial HISTORY of forgiving some of the worst enemies of Islam including those who conspired to kill him.

FYI: https://www.al-islam.org/forgiveness-islam/some-examples-pardons-made-prophet-and-imams

Islam did not spread with magic - Holy Prophet (PBUH) set examples of kindness and tolerance in his teachings and had to endure lot of hardships in the process.

It is easy for morally bankrupt people to question his morals and struggles in this age - what kind of world WE live in.

Is that a yes or a no to him approving of murdering in his name?

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Yeah, it's not 6 either. The Medieval world is not now. The US now, is not Africa now.

Take a step back and realize that you're essentially saying "so what everybody was f*cking 9 yr. olds".

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
So far you're the only one I've seen talking rubbish in this thread. Free speech is not rubbish. It is a Constitutional right of every single American. What you call hate speech is protected by the first amendment. I hear atheists talk shit about Jesus (and He actually was Holy and still is, unlike Muhammed) all the time but I never threaten them or say they aren't allowed to do it.

If you think people being free to talk bad about anyone (including so-called "prophets"😉 is rubbish then perhaps you should move to one of those muslim countries you admire so much.


I am trying to show your Americans the MIRROR and attempting to explain pitfalls of HATE SPEECH in this thread - and you say that I am talking rubbish here. I took you for being among the wiser members of the forum - guess I was wrong.

What kind of Moral High Ground you Americans have that Muslims around the world should draw lessons from?

I can expect to learn from an individual who have better morals than mine but not from bigots and hypocrites of the highest order.

American notion of Freedom of Expression is backwards and should be revisited.

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/UN%20Strategy%20and%20Plan%20of%20Action%20on%20Hate%20Speech%2018%20June%20SYNOPSIS.pdf

First Amendment is not an excuse.

Originally posted by Surtur
This bi polar serial killer you're choosing to defend is not worth it.

More lies and nonsense from you - not surprised.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Yeah, I wanna see some actual proof that our founders married and had sex with girls under ten years old as the pedo apologist is claiming.

9 seems too young. I could seem them not minding a dude marrying like a 13 yr. old. Which is creepy but still lightyears away from a 9 yr. old

Even the time of the founding of the US is long ago in the West. I'm a Godless infidel from the least religious nation on Earth, our king left the Catholic church so he could divorce. But, I believe in tolerance, I've never felt safer in my life than living in KSA. Except when Yemeni (Iranian supplied) scuds from the ludicrous "war" (butchering poor shia) were coming in.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Even the time of the founding of the US is long ago in the West. I'm a Godless infidel from the least religious nation on Earth, our king left the Catholic church so he could divorce. But, I believe in tolerance, I've never felt safer in my life than living in KSA. Except when Yemeni (Iranian supplied) scuds from the ludicrous "war" (butchering poor shia) were coming in.

This is gibberish.