Originally posted by cdtmThat's part of why I liked him. The greatest thing he's done is expose America for what it really is. A big fat moron doing what he's told while others make lots of money.
You may be surprised at what the average American thinks.Personally, I feel the main difference between Trump and a lot of leaders in both parties, is he's clueless enough to say whats really on his mind.
Also, Whirly is right about how different religious practices are tolerated in Islam. That's why there are so many different versions of Islam and Islam is peace.
The only problem is psychologically, it physically impairs people, especially women, but also the men, so dumb radicalised ****wits can exploit these peaceful nomads.
Originally posted by SurturNot at all, I have no religion. What I am aware of is, that trying to state Islam has more blood on its hands even in the modern world than the Western Military-Industrial complex is extremely silly.
Lol you're like a battered gf saying "he does it cuz he loves me".
Originally posted by Blakemore
That's part of why I liked him. The greatest thing he's done is expose America for what it really is. A big fat moron doing what he's told while others make lots of money.Also, Whirly is right about how different religious practices are tolerated in Islam. That's why there are so many different versions of Islam and Islam is peace.
The only problem is psychologically, it physically impairs people, especially women, but also the men, so dumb radicalised ****wits can exploit these peaceful nomads.
Maybe you didn't get the memo, Hitler-lover: this thread is not about Trump.
Save your TDS for the proper thread please.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
"There is no proof that the sky is blue, that the earth is round , or that 2+2=4!"
A large number of historical records are being scrutinized and revisited around the world by historians to distinguish fabrications from truthfulness and more.
Nobody had a camera back in the days of Holy Prophet (PBUH) to ascertain how old was his wife Ayesha at the time of marriage to him.
The first hadith was written many years after death of Holy Prophet (PBUH). The only records documented by him in his lifetime is the Holy Quran. Nothing else.
Get your facts straight instead.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
FLAWED examples.A large number of historical records are being scrutinized and revisited around the world by historians to distinguish fabrications from truthfulness and more.
Nobody had a camera back in the days of Holy Prophet (PBUH) to ascertain how old was his wide Ayesha at the time of marriage to him.
The first hadith was written many years after death of Holy Prophet (PBUH). The only records documented by him in his lifetime is the Holy Quran. Nothing else.
Get your facts straight instead.
Since you say Muhammad wasn't a pedo.
Will you say that being a pedo is a bad thing?
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Not at all, I have no religion. What I am aware of is, that trying to state Islam has more blood on its hands even in the modern world than the Western Military-Industrial complex is extremely silly.
Yes, it is as it practiced in some countries far less tolerant than the UK on many issues. However, we've already seen on things like Abortion it has far more in common with many US red states than the UK have with those same red states. I try not to judge cultures like your religious states as primitive in the same way I don't judge Islam in that way. galan_jesus
I wonder if you will reflect on why you chose to compare Islam to the western MIC(which is awful and needs to be eradicated) instead of other religions.
I feel like even if you won't outright say it you know this is the most problematic mainstream religion as of now.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/child-brides-us-share-stories-exploitation-learning-wife/story?id=64589713
Child brides in the US share stories of exploitation, becoming a wife: 'I knew I was 11. I knew he was 20.'
"Everything changed. I wasn't me anymore."
In 13 states, there is no minimum age.
I don't judge coming from a civilized nation.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
https://abcnews.go.com/US/child-brides-us-share-stories-exploitation-learning-wife/story?id=64589713Child brides in the US share stories of exploitation, becoming a wife: 'I knew I was 11. I knew he was 20.'
"Everything changed. I wasn't me anymore."In 13 states, there is no minimum age.
I don't judge coming from a civilized nation.
Are we worshiping the guy who married the 11 yr. old and murdering people who draw pictures of him?
If not, are you foolish?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
[B]The Pedophilia and Orientation Debate and Its Implications for Forensic PsychiatryBy its nature, the field of forensic psychiatry demands attention to and integration of both mental health and legal perspectives. Sometimes, important distinctions come down to the perspective adopted, the method employed, or even single words. This editorial reviews a controversial subject in forensic sexology to illustrate general concerns of potential interest to all forensic psychiatrists. While the specific topic may not be at the top of every forensic psychiatrist's list of causes for concern, the principles arising may be surprisingly generalizable.
The main question to be addressed here is whether or not pedophilia is an orientation. In 2013, the American Psychiatric Association issued a statement that the DSM-5 text that refers to pedophilia as an “orientation” (Ref. 4, p 698) was a text-based error. Nevertheless, some sexologists have continued to argue that pedophilia is in fact a sexual orientation.
LINK: http://jaapl.org/content/48/2/146
Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime
LINK: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/opinion/pedophilia-a-disorder-not-a-crime.html
Jeffrey Epstein: The billionaire paedophile with links to Donald Trump, Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew
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Mark my words - much of the WEST will decriminalize Pedophilia at some point. The process starts with revisits in Forensic Psychiatry.
I would love to have a look at member Surtur when that happens.
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Regarding Pedophilia nonsense attributed to Holy Prophet (PBUH):-
All that is known for sure is that Ayesha was the youngest bride of Holy Prophet (PBUH). Her true age at the time of marriage is subject to much debate among scholars throughout history.
Hadith are 'interpretations' of statements and events pertaining to Holy Prophet (PBUH) from his companions but documented many years after his death - these records are known to have mistakes/errors in them. These mistakes/errors led to categorization of hadith in terms of reliability hundreds of years ago and this issue inspire debate even in modern times because this matter is not resolved yet.
Documented mistakes/errors are a common theme in human records throughout history. Even books such as Guinness Book of World Records have gotten stuff wrong at times.
From one of the best learned and informed Islamic scholars of this age:
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Islamophobes of this forum are not interested in FACTS and DEBATES however.
It is people like you that are responsible for alienating Muslims around the world with your bigotry, ignorance, hubris and lack of morals. Not just Muslims but numerous others who are gaining power.
A time will come when your miserable faces will be saddened for a long time.
Never in my life I felt so CRINGE debating in a thread of a forum as was the case here.
Moderators of this Forum need to step up their game because this forum is loosing traffic. [/B]
Shut the hell up you Trumper! You don’t even know what you’re talking about with gibberish bullet points.
If I could, I’d send a bunch of chickens your way.
Originally posted by SurturIs this happening 1500 years ago like for Mo? If it isn't some would say you have backward pro paedo laws.. Far more so than some Islamic nations (not all)
Are we worshiping the guy who married the 11 yr. old and murdering people who draw pictures of him?If not, are you foolish?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
FLAWED examples.A large number of historical records are being scrutinized and revisited around the world by historians to distinguish fabrications from truthfulness and more.
Nobody had a camera back in the days of Holy Prophet (PBUH) to ascertain how old was his wife Ayesha at the time of marriage to him.
The first hadith was written many years after death of Holy Prophet (PBUH). The only records documented by him in his lifetime is the Holy Quran. Nothing else.
Get your facts straight instead.
The bees are out to get you.