Man from mostly peaceful religion decapitates teacher over Muhammad cartoons

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
I am trying to show your Americans the MIRROR and attempting to explain pitfalls of HATE SPEECH in this thread - and you say that I am talking rubbish here. I took you for being among the wiser members of the forum - guess I was wrong.

What kind of [B]Moral High Ground you Americans have that Muslims around the world should draw lessons from?

I can expect to learn from an individual who have better morals than mine but not from bigots and hypocrites of the highest order.

American notion of Freedom of Expression is backwards and should be revisited.

https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/UN%20Strategy%20and%20Plan%20of%20Action%20on%20Hate%20Speech%2018%20June%20SYNOPSIS.pdf

First Amendment is not an excuse. [/B]

Well. we don't approve of murdering people. Would Muhammad?

Originally posted by Surtur
9 seems too young. I could seem them not minding a dude marrying like a 13 yr. old. Which is creepy but still lightyears away from a 9 yr. old

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Originally posted by Surtur
Take a step back and realize that you're essentially saying "so what everybody was f*cking 9 yr. olds".

LMAO! 😆 🤣 😆

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
He's right to a point as far as medieval warlords went Mohammad was a very, very kind statesman. Equality and other people being allowed to pay tithes to worship their own religion within his communities was almost unheard of. Tbh, a lot of modern versions of Islam are more extreme than that Mohammad himself preached. As for child brides, they were going in US states until quite recently when did it stop being 11 in states. Ffs Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13-year-old cousin not that long ago. The youngest queen consort in English history was Isabella of Valois, who married Richard II when she was 6 years, 358 days old in 1396. Richard was 29 at the time. This was 600+ years after Mohammad and a Christian monarch.

Whirly would you trust Muhammad to babysit your kids?

2nd scenario: your kids are jews and he knows it

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Even the time of the founding of the US is long ago in the West. I'm a Godless infidel from the least religious nation on Earth, our king left the Catholic church so he could divorce. But, I believe in tolerance, I've never felt safer in my life than living in KSA. Except when Yemeni (Iranian supplied) scuds from the ludicrous "war" (butchering poor shia) were coming in.

Originally posted by Surtur
Whirly would you trust Muhammad to babysit your kids?

2nd scenario: your kids are jews and he knows it

lol you are just full of zingers today aren't you? 😂

Islamic–Jewish relations started in the 7th century AD with the origin and spread of Islam in the Arabian peninsula. The two religions share similar values, guidelines, and principles.[1] Islam also incorporates Jewish history as a part of its own. Muslims regard the Children of Israel as an important religious concept in Islam. Moses, the most important prophet of Judaism, is also considered a prophet and messenger in Islam.[2] Moses is mentioned in the Quran more than any other individual, and his life is narrated and recounted more than that of any other prophet.[3] There are approximately 43 references to the Israelites in the Quran (excluding individual prophets),[4] and many in the Hadith. Later rabbinic authorities and Jewish scholars such as Maimonides discussed the relationship between Islam and Jewish law. Maimonides himself, it has been argued, was influenced by Islamic legal thought.

Wiki but true.

Originally posted by Blakemore
I never thought Trump was racist on a personal level. A more fitting description would be a giant douche so detached from the common man he either unwittingly, ignorantly, or just plain doesn't care, hurts people of colour economically whilst saying suggestive language that implies things like "Mexicans are rapists" which I've said, he didn't actually say that, but the average American was probably thinking that crap anyway.

You may be surprised at what the average American thinks.

Personally, I feel the main difference between Trump and a lot of leaders in both parties, is he's clueless enough to say whats really on his mind.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Islamic–Jewish relations started in the 7th century AD with the origin and spread of Islam in the Arabian peninsula. The two religions share similar values, guidelines, and principles.[1] Islam also incorporates Jewish history as a part of its own. Muslims regard the Children of Israel as an important religious concept in Islam. Moses, the most important prophet of Judaism, is also considered a prophet and messenger in Islam.[2] Moses is mentioned in the Quran more than any other individual, and his life is narrated and recounted more than that of any other prophet.[3] There are approximately 43 references to the Israelites in the Quran (excluding individual prophets),[4] and many in the Hadith. Later rabbinic authorities and Jewish scholars such as Maimonides discussed the relationship between Islam and Jewish law. Maimonides himself, it has been argued, was influenced by Islamic legal thought.

Wiki but true.

Lol you're like a battered gf saying "he does it cuz he loves me".

Originally posted by cdtm
You may be surprised at what the average American thinks.

Personally, I feel the main difference between Trump and a lot of leaders in both parties, is he's clueless enough to say whats really on his mind.

This is why Trump is so weird. He lies, but in some ways he is the most honest politician ever. In that sometimes he just admits he is gaming the system.

He says out loud what they will only dare say in private

No, he's not clueless. He just has balls and so makes an effort to NOT be politically correct and gives the middle finger to the establishment. One reason we like him so much.

How in the hell does a thread about a muslim murdering someone turn into yet another anti-Trump thread?

Oh, that's right... because TDS infected folk can't help but make everything about "orange man baaaaad!".

Good point, onto the topic:

French Authorities Arrest 11 After History Teacher Beheading

The Pedophilia and Orientation Debate and Its Implications for Forensic Psychiatry

By its nature, the field of forensic psychiatry demands attention to and integration of both mental health and legal perspectives. Sometimes, important distinctions come down to the perspective adopted, the method employed, or even single words. This editorial reviews a controversial subject in forensic sexology to illustrate general concerns of potential interest to all forensic psychiatrists. While the specific topic may not be at the top of every forensic psychiatrist's list of causes for concern, the principles arising may be surprisingly generalizable.

The main question to be addressed here is whether or not pedophilia is an orientation. In 2013, the American Psychiatric Association issued a statement that the DSM-5 text that refers to pedophilia as an “orientation” (Ref. 4, p 698) was a text-based error. Nevertheless, some sexologists have continued to argue that pedophilia is in fact a sexual orientation.

LINK: http://jaapl.org/content/48/2/146

Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime

LINK: https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/opinion/pedophilia-a-disorder-not-a-crime.html

Jeffrey Epstein: The billionaire paedophile with links to Donald Trump, Bill Clinton and Prince Andrew

LINK: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/jeffrey-epstein-trump-relationship-pedophile-money-wife-clinton-prince-andrew-sex-trafficking-a8995911.html

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Mark my words - much of the WEST will decriminalize Pedophilia at some point. The process starts with revisits in Forensic Psychiatry.

I would love to have a look at member Surtur when that happens.

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Regarding Pedophilia nonsense attributed to Holy Prophet (PBUH):-

All that is known for sure is that Ayesha was the youngest bride of Holy Prophet (PBUH). Her true age at the time of marriage is subject to much debate among scholars throughout history.

Hadith are 'interpretations' of statements and events pertaining to Holy Prophet (PBUH) from his companions but documented many years after his death - these records are known to have mistakes/errors in them. These mistakes/errors led to categorization of hadith in terms of reliability hundreds of years ago and this issue inspire debate even in modern times because this matter is not resolved yet.

Documented mistakes/errors are a common theme in human records throughout history. Even books such as Guinness Book of World Records have gotten stuff wrong at times.

From one of the best learned and informed Islamic scholars of this age:

YouTube video

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Islamophobes of this forum are not interested in FACTS and DEBATES however.

It is people like you that are responsible for alienating Muslims around the world with your bigotry, ignorance, hubris and lack of morals. Not just Muslims but numerous others who are gaining power.

A time will come when your miserable faces will be saddened for a long time.

Never in my life I felt so CRINGE debating in a thread of a forum as was the case here.

Moderators of this Forum need to step up their game because this forum is loosing traffic.

SW_Legend how about you meet me halfway and acknowledge it is not conservatives pushing pedo acceptance here but the left?

Cuz I do agree. Certain folk here do wanna push that agenda. But the NYT doesn't lean right. And I hate those pieces of shit pushing pedo acceptance.

But I acknowledge if certain folk gain power here we could see some sick pedo acceptance go mainstream.

So Muhammad being a pedo is a good thing?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So Muhammad being a pedo is a good thing?

Apparently so lol.

I guess the argument is everybody was a pedo back then and the left is now pushing pedo acceptance in the modern day.

Which...I mean, that's technically correct but not a valid excuse.

Originally posted by Silent Master
So Muhammad being a pedo is a good thing?

There is no proof of this nonsense.