I have always wondered how Hulk can win against a serious Kryptonian on a forum battle?
It just simply doesn’t make any logical sense (outside fanboyism).
You have on one side a terrain-limited character who can only move in two dimensions, only relies of strength as a primary offensive capability, primary ranged attack is clapping his hands together, is slow (yes, he can outrun a fast car ...I’m sure even Aquaman can do that), and gets stronger as he gets angrier.
On the other hand you have a being of similar strength (I am being kind to the Hulk when I say that), can move in three dimensions, has a variety of ranged attacks across heat, sound and cold (of, and can even do the thunder clap since fanboys find it so interesting ...although his ability to, for example, stop a tsunami cold by simply freezing it with his breath is in my opinion more impressive), is fast enough to save Louis and Jimmy after they have been shot at, while on another continent, before the Bullet gets to them), and Superman also appears to have dynamic strength.
It just doesn’t make any sense.
In a comic book? Sure, I have a comic where Captain America is beating up the Hulk. Anything can happen in a comic book since the writers and artists can put together anything they want.
But in a forum? Any forum? Simply put, the Hulk is simply on a lower level than any serious Kryptonian.
Now, Hulk vs Solomon Grundy. Yes, the Hulk will win ...but that’s a fair comparison. Like comparing a Ferrari (the Hulk) against a souped ‘Vette (Grundy).
Hulk vs Superman is like a Ferrari vs the Starship Enterprise!
Different levels.
Originally posted by Stoic
Hulk's too slow. It would make no sense for him to win unless he could speed up.
That’s the truth. Unfortunately Hulk fanboys (and they are fanboys) never explain beyond ‘Hulk wins.’
Sure, in a comic book he could win. In the same way Captain America was punching him up.
However, in any forum fight the Hulk simply wouldn’t have a chance against Superman in the same way Captain America would have against the Hulk.
Originally posted by spetznaz
I have always wondered how Hulk can win against a serious Kryptonian on a forum battle?It just simply doesn’t make any logical sense (outside fanboyism).
You have on one side a terrain-limited character who can only move in two dimensions, only relies of strength as a primary offensive capability, primary ranged attack is clapping his hands together, is slow (yes, he can outrun a fast car ...I’m sure even Aquaman can do that), and gets stronger as he gets angrier.
On the other hand you have a being of similar strength (I am being kind to the Hulk when I say that), can move in three dimensions, has a variety of ranged attacks across heat, sound and cold (of, and can even do the thunder clap since fanboys find it so interesting ...although his ability to, for example, stop a tsunami cold by simply freezing it with his breath is in my opinion more impressive), is fast enough to save Louis and Jimmy after they have been shot at, while on another continent, before the Bullet gets to them), and Superman also appears to have dynamic strength.
It just doesn’t make any sense.
In a comic book? Sure, I have a comic where Captain America is beating up the Hulk. Anything can happen in a comic book since the writers and artists can put together anything they want.
But in a forum? Any forum? Simply put, the Hulk is simply on a lower level than any serious Kryptonian.
Now, Hulk vs Solomon Grundy. Yes, the Hulk will win ...but that’s a fair comparison. Like comparing a Ferrari (the Hulk) against a souped ‘Vette (Grundy).
Hulk vs Superman is like a Ferrari vs the Starship Enterprise!
Different levels.
Thunderclapping, Reacting to Gladiator/Surfer blitzes, Being stronger than Superman in general...?
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Thunderclapping, Reacting to Gladiator/Surfer blitzes, Being stronger than Superman in general...?
Thank you for responding.
I disagree with what you said, but I respect you saying it. Orders of magnitude more intelligent than ‘Hulk smash.’
Thank you. There may just be hope for a return to debate on KMC.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
A battalion of full powered kryptonians working under the yellow sunshine of metropolis" Have a country level attack combined, They won't be effective against Hulk:
Seeing this now Alberto.
Even if one assumed that a ‘country level attack cannot harm the Hulk’ - even though he’s been harmed by far less, but that’s not what I want to focus on because, again, comics! We saw Captain America punishing the Hulk. We’ve seen Thanos in handcuffs. We’ve seen Wonderwoman have a fight with Bruce. All things that should never happen.
Today Marvel can have Wolverine totally dismantle the Hulk. Next week they can have TOAA’s strongest attack bounce harmlessly off him.
Comics.
The point I want to focus on is EXACTLY how would the Hulk even be able to tag any Kryptonian? In a forum fight?
Sure, in a comic book they’d just stand rooted to one spot and trade blows. We’ve even seen Deathstroke tag the Flash several times.
But in a forum fight, how exactly is the Hulk tagging any Kryptonian?
You guys are going at it the wrong way. Sure, we all know Alberto had it wrong on how effective a Kryptonian would be against the Hulk, but I don’t want to use that angle. He may ignore it.
What I would want to know is how exactly he thinks the Hulk - in a forum fight - would even be able to tag a Kryptonian into be first place?
Again, in a forum setting.
Unless he was serious when he said a thunderclap. An attack moving at the speed of sound may not even be effective against lesser characters.
Anyway, I doubt he (or any Hulk supporter) will respond, but I am genuinely curious how - in a forum fight - they expect one-dimensional slow characters to effectively engage multi-dimensional hyper-fast characters.
Maybe ‘thunderclap’ was a serious response after all. Against a character whose spit could probably go through the Hulk’s skull.
Literally.
Originally posted by spetznaz
You guys are going at it the wrong way. Sure, we all know Alberto had it wrong on how effective a Kryptonian would be against the Hulk, but I don’t want to use that angle. He may ignore it.What I would want to know is how exactly he thinks the Hulk - in a forum fight - would even be able to tag a Kryptonian into be first place?
Again, in a forum setting.
Unless he was serious when he said a thunderclap. An attack moving at the speed of sound may not even be effective against lesser characters.
Anyway, I doubt he (or any Hulk supporter) will respond, but I am genuinely curious how - in a forum fight - they expect one-dimensional slow characters to effectively engage multi-dimensional hyper-fast characters.
Maybe ‘thunderclap’ was a serious response after all. Against a character whose spit could probably go through the Hulk’s skull.
Literally.
In a forum setting we still use feats (however much they may or may not make sense) as a way to gauge. It seems your argument is to toss out all the times Superman has been shut down by slow characters. It's been shown time and time again that Hulk can react to any opponent at his level. There's no need to prove it.
Originally posted by spetznaz
You guys are going at it the wrong way. Sure, we all know Alberto had it wrong on how effective a Kryptonian would be against the Hulk, but I don’t want to use that angle. He may ignore it.What I would want to know is how exactly he thinks the Hulk - in a forum fight - would even be able to tag a Kryptonian into be first place?
Again, in a forum setting.
Unless he was serious when he said a thunderclap. An attack moving at the speed of sound may not even be effective against lesser characters.
Anyway, I doubt he (or any Hulk supporter) will respond, but I am genuinely curious how - in a forum fight - they expect one-dimensional slow characters to effectively engage multi-dimensional hyper-fast characters.
Maybe ‘thunderclap’ was a serious response after all. Against a character whose spit could probably go through the Hulk’s skull.
Literally.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
In a forum setting we still use feats (however much they may or may not make sense) as a way to gauge. It seems your argument is to toss out all the times Superman has been shut down by slow characters. It's been shown time and time again that Hulk can react to any opponent at his level. There's no need to prove it.
10x the speed of thought.