The Creeper is much faster, comparable in strength, can fly, and has way more versatile weaponry.
Going with The Creeper, has too much going for him and has better regen IIRC, Jason's superior strength will be a factor, but not enough for it alone to overtake every single one of Creeper's advantages.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Doesn't the Creeper always have to eat to regen? Insane damage soak, sure, but not continuous regen. I think I'd give this one to Jason.
Actually, you might be right. Its been a long time since I watched it.
Even then I think damage soak might be enough. Can't creeper pin jason to a wall with some of the weapons that he throws?
Creeper Feats
Strength -
https://gfycat.com/skinnypessimisticaffenpinscher - Shakes a bus filled with people while on top of it.
https://i.imgur.com/ZatxINj.png - Peeled the roof off a car like a sardine can.
https://gfycat.com/lateeuphoricdowitcher - Easily punches through the bus roof and while bent over picks a guy up by his skull.
https://gfycat.com/wellworngiddybantamrooster - Pulls a truck against it's engine while flying and with a harpoon stuck through his back.
https://gfycat.com/sizzlingunkempthackee - Flips the entire bus by looping the harpoon line through it and flying away.
https://gfycat.com/devotedplumphornedtoad - Flips the truck end over end easily by just flying.
https://gfycat.com/foolishcreamycockerspaniel - Cuts through an industrial tow chain with one swipe of his axe. Although in fairness his weapons seem to be able to cut through nearly anything.
https://gfycat.com/courageousfreshguppy - His severed hand is easily strong enough to lift a woman off the ground several feet. And it proves he can remotely control his limbs.
https://gfycat.com/cautiousgiddydunnart - Casually flips a giant wheeled gas tank so hard it goes several dozen feet and rolls multiple times.
https://i.imgur.com/wxAaRiY.png - The tank is so big normal people can hide under it.
https://gfycat.com/assureddelectablebigmouthbass - Flips yet another truck over on its side with no problems.
Speed/Agility/Reflexes(I won't post any of his flight feats although he can move more than 100mph in the air) -
https://gfycat.com/blissfulhonorabledarwinsfox - Fast enough to avoid a shotgun blast and move at least a dozen feet in an instant.
https://gfycat.com/mammothbestatlanticblackgoby - Flips off a car when they try to back up and make him fall.
https://gfycat.com/scornfulwelcomedwarfrabbit - Jumps onto a car going full speed from a standstill and runs on the roof for the lulz.
https://gfycat.com/genuinebrokenbobwhite - Can jump like a baby Hulk.
https://gfycat.com/lateshallowbunting - Blocks a shotgun slug with his axe after it was fired.
Durability -
https://gfycat.com/impressiveflippantcarpenterant - Gets launched at least 30-40 feet by a semi truck, and leaves so fast the driver didn't see him.
https://streamable.com/k0249 - Nothing in this scene actually hurt him. His 23 days were up so he had no choice but to hibernate.
https://gfycat.com/demandingjadedfeline - Ignores getting ventilated by several hundred rounds from a 20mm vulcan cannon. It can shoot 6,000 rounds per minute so he got hit with a lot of bullets.
https://gfycat.com/ordinaryspiffyasiaticlesserfreshwaterclam - Stabbed clean through the skull by one of his pneumatic super spears and was just fine.
https://gfycat.com/deadlysolidbonobo - Harpoon to the skull. Just fine. His days ran out is all.
https://gfycat.com/velvetyslipperyasp - Hits the bus roof hard enough to dent it in, rock the bus and shatter all the windows.
Skills -
https://gfycat.com/pessimisticunsteadyankolewatusi - Spears a woman in the dark while missing his dominant eye.
https://gfycat.com/fabulouseducatedchinesecrocodilelizard - Speared two guys with one throw and stuck them to a tree.
https://gfycat.com/deadhotkiskadee - Pops a bus tire while running through a corn field. The bus was speeding down the highway. So his accuracy is insane.
https://gfycat.com/jadedmajorindianhare - Throws a shuriken into the barrel of a shotgun.
https://gfycat.com/detailedmajorcollardlizard - While flying in the sky, pins a guys arm to a tree with a throwing knife. He led the shot.
https://gfycat.com/firstbaggyheterodontosaurus - Shuriken headshot while the guy is running the other way.
He uses a battle axe that's bulletproof, a spear, knives, and shuriken that are all similarly durable. And all of his weapons are supernaturally sharp. The shuriken are so sharp that a woman cut herself touching the blade.
https://gfycat.com/delayedblackgoat - He also apparently has telekinesis.
Jason's gonna have a bad time.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerThere's also that insane beat down he got in the dreamworld from Freddy which left him no worse off. It looked like something out of a toon.
Any version? So, including Jason X, who survived planetary re-entry?
That said, everything Kings posted for Creeper is pretty wild.
Jason has some comparable stuff in this respect thread if anyone wants to look through. He even has comparable skill feels of accuracy.
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/jason-voorhees-friday-the-13th-respect-thread-2002353/
The main things listed in Kings post that I've never really seen Jason top is the wheeled gas tank being flipped a couple dozen feet, the vulcan cannon feat from the third movie (though I think Jason could handle this since he's lost a solid half his torso and healed back in moments), and the blocking the shotgun with his axe after it was fired feat (though with the speed at which he moved and the camera cut, you may be able to argue aim blocking; regardless, Jason isn't really known for lightning fast reflexes so aim blocking or not, Creeper has the speed edge).
Another thing to note is how inconsistent the Creeper is. We say him get taken out in the first movie by a teen repeatedly running him over, after failing to dodge the car that had around 50 feet to accelerate. Still, we go by the most current version, and the third movie is what gave him his craziest feats that talked about above. The Creeper in the first two movies would comfortably lose to Jason IMO. The third movie was just on another level. Things got kind of cartoony. The main deciding factor here is if Creeper could get past Jasons damage soak combined with his ridiculous healing factor before Jason does enough damage to put him down (since he can't really heal, Jason just needs to get past his damage soak). Even Freddy in the dream world failed here.
Plus, in that scene where the Creeper got hit by the semi in JC3, he was down and out for a solid 40+ seconds (not to mention he lost a limb). Same with that vulcan canon scene. Every time he takes some serious amount of damage, it seems to put him out of commission for a solid amount of time, and Jason could definitely do some serious damage.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tWZ9rvcp-8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACyUVpJiXe0
I'm not confident in saying Jason wins against Creeper V3, but Creeper would definitely have to work for the win.
Well, assuming Uber-Jason/Jason X is on the table, my biggest thing is how retardedly tanky he is. I mean he can survive shit like this (warning just in case, the tie-in comic beneath the clip contains drawn nudity):
If it's regular Jason though, Creeper would probably have a good chance of winning.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, assuming Uber-Jason/Jason X is on the table, my biggest thing is how retardedly tanky he is. I mean he can survive shit like this (warning just in case, the tie-in comic beneath the clip contains drawn nudity):If it's regular Jason though, Creeper would probably have a good chance of winning.
Yeah, he made it through re-entry. But if I recall, he wasn't immune to blunt force trauma or bladed weapons even in his X form. Creeper is stronger than that android by multiple times going off his feats, and his weapons can cut through basically anything. Magical steel + super strength and even Jason shouldn't be able to just stand there and tank it, because he's way slower and way less skilled in an actual fight than Creeper who could dance around him like a ninja if he wanted.
Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah, he made it through re-entry. But if I recall, he wasn't immune to blunt force trauma or bladed weapons even in his X form. Creeper is stronger than that android by multiple times going off his feats, and his weapons can cut through basically anything. Magical steel + super strength and even Jason shouldn't be able to just stand there and tank it, because he's way slower and way less skilled in an actual fight than Creeper who could dance around him like a ninja if he wanted.
He does actually have a bunch of piercing and other durability feats as well. The problem is a lot of them are only shown/described properly in tie-in comics and novels, like tanking hits from Deadite Jason's machete, tanking lasers, flamethrowers, a grenade launcher and even shrugging off armor-piercing plasma bullets, but I don't know how valid any of it is for this forum. Because technically it is the same character performing all the feats. There's actually a pretty decent respect thread put together for him on Reddit:
But as I said, I don't know how much of that is allowed for this fight. It's up to the OP what he wants to allow, I guess, because it technically should fall within the forum rules.
