Silver Surfer vs 5 Imperiex probes

Originally posted by h1a8
No handcuffs. We just require proof of these things.

Proof that Surfer can go intangible in a battle or at all. Phasing through walls by shifting one's molecules is not the same thing as being intangible.

Proof that he has access to his full powers while intangible. For example, can he shoot blasts while in ghost form?

Proof that he will think of going intangible over the 100 different powers to choose from.

Proof that he create black holes without touching something not very durable, causing it to become a black hole and taking less than 1 second to do

Proof that he can drain a probe. Draining Hulk via touch isn't proof.

Phasing...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4517476-9863053652-GBvVW.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4517478-8474814146-wolwk.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4517480-0348130835-45174.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K8dKfUe.jpg

Silver Surfer creating a black hole...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75314/1586151-annihilationsilversurfe2.jpg

Do I really need to post him creating suns?

Draining...

https://m.imgur.com/a/q4U6CGR

Create a clone of himself from clay...

https://m.imgur.com/a/n0SzwPu

Then he can see the future on how things would play out...

https://i.imgur.com/4HEi9ej.jpg

Shrinks

https://m.imgur.com/a/C64iRBX

Originally posted by carver9
Phasing...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4517476-9863053652-GBvVW.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4517478-8474814146-wolwk.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4517480-0348130835-45174.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K8dKfUe.jpg

Silver Surfer creating a black hole...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75314/1586151-annihilationsilversurfe2.jpg

Do I really need to post him creating suns?

Draining...

https://m.imgur.com/a/q4U6CGR

Create a clone of himself from clay...

https://m.imgur.com/a/n0SzwPu

Then he can see the future on how things would play out...

https://i.imgur.com/4HEi9ej.jpg

Shrinks

https://m.imgur.com/a/C64iRBX

Reread my post. I mentioned these scans with rebuttals.
You basically ignored the entire post and posted the scans anyway without addressing the rebuttals.

Surfer didn't create a clone completely under his own power.
Surfer can't see the future precisely. Do you have any scans of him doing so and actually using it to his advantage in battle?
Otherwise that scan is irrelevant.

Shrinks to enter the microverse does not prove Surfer can win this battle. Otherwise, how would it help him win (assuming he evens thinks about that tactic in battle and chooses to employ it).

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What they think was proven numerous times in threads and based on Surfers powerset. Superman has zero defense for the solar getting drained out of him in instants, Surfers immune to everything Flash can throw at him, same with Diana, Power cosmic is far more versatile, and more powerful than Lanterns. All of this is based on feats shown throughout the years, AND consistency. Yo go ahead and make that thread and see how it goes 😂

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t672104.html

Let's start with something simple.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Surf wouldnt mind going hard against lifeless probes. Anyways op said bloodlusted so moot. Serious surfer can take em.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Surfer wins in a hard fought victory. Much easier if it's the Blacked.com version.

At this point Kyle was already getting amped from Ion energies. Surfer wouldn't last any longer than Kyle did.

Originally posted by carver9
Phasing...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4517476-9863053652-GBvVW.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4517478-8474814146-wolwk.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11114/111142536/4517480-0348130835-45174.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K8dKfUe.jpg

Silver Surfer creating a black hole...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/75314/1586151-annihilationsilversurfe2.jpg

Do I really need to post him creating suns?

Draining...

https://m.imgur.com/a/q4U6CGR

Create a clone of himself from clay...

https://m.imgur.com/a/n0SzwPu

Then he can see the future on how things would play out...

https://i.imgur.com/4HEi9ej.jpg

Shrinks

https://m.imgur.com/a/C64iRBX

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope. Here's just one probe beating down Kyle like nothing.

At this point Kyle was already getting amped from Ion energies. Surfer wouldn't last any longer than Kyle did.

Surfer isn't beating even one of the probes.

Originally posted by h1a8
Reread my post. I mentioned these scans with rebuttals.
You basically ignored the entire post and posted the scans anyway without addressing the rebuttals.

Surfer didn't create a clone completely under his own power.
Surfer can't see the future precisely. Do you have any scans of him doing so and actually using it to his advantage in battle?
Otherwise that scan is irrelevant.

Shrinks to enter the microverse does not prove Surfer can win this battle. Otherwise, how would it help him win (assuming he evens thinks about that tactic in battle and chooses to employ it).

We can't prove 99% of the people can fight at light speed in combat but its said. Youre one of the people that say it. Im not posting ANY combat showings here because it's not needed. The scans I haven are relevant. You can either accept them or move along.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Kyle has literally done everything you posted and then some. He was oneshotted while amped.

Surfer isn't beating even one of the probes.

Was all out Kyle one hit?

Yes, he was.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nope. Here's just one probe beating down Kyle like nothing.

At this point Kyle was already getting amped from Ion energies. Surfer wouldn't last any longer than Kyle did.

The probe actually no sold Kyle and oneshotted him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, he was.

This doesn't prove he was going all out? Remember, the first two Probes gave Superman fits. Hell, the one that landed in Kansas, the backlash of power koed Superman. Also, wouldnt this be a bad showing for Kyle since was amped here but did nothing whereas Diana and Aquaman along with Diana mother took some Probes out?

Originally posted by carver9
This doesn't prove he was going all out? Remember, the first two Probes gave Superman fits. Hell, the one that landed in Kansas, the backlash of power koed Superman. Also, wouldnt this be a bad showing for Kyle since was amped here but did nothing whereas Diana and Aquaman along with Diana mother took some Probes out?

"Kyle wasn't going all out"

"Its a bad showing for Kyle"

Choose one lowball carter.

I'm still waiting for you in the GL/SS thread carter.

Originally posted by carver9
We can't prove 99% of the people can fight at light speed in combat but its said. Youre one of the people that say it. Im not posting ANY combat showings here because it's not needed. The scans I haven are relevant. You can either accept them or move along.

That means you didn't bother to actually read my posts. You just glossed over it.

My post didn't emphasize Surfer doing anything in battle.
I told you phrasing through walls by shifting molecules is not the same thing as being intangible. I stated this before you posted scans. Obviously I know of those scans beforehand.

You didn't prove that Surfer can access all his powers while being intangible (assuming you prove that he can actually be intangible).

You didn't prove that he can create black holes from material more durable than Gabriel and create black holes without having to touch something and do it within 1 second.

I stated Surfer draining Hulk via touch does not prove he can drain a probe. I stated this before you posted the scan. And Surfer would get dog walked by another probe if he tried to drain one probe or try to create a black hole in one probe. Remember, there are 5 here.

You basically proved to everyone here that you did not read my post at all. You basically trolled.

Originally posted by JBL
Show him biting someone's face off at superspeed. We are talking about what the character HAS done.

So if I have a 100 ton pencil, the Hulk and Gladiator can't lift it? Because there is no comic showing them ever lifting a 100 ton pencil?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So if I have a 100 ton pencil, the Hulk and Gladiator can't lift it? Because there is no comic showing them ever lifting a 100 ton pencil?

Originally posted by JBL
There ARE showings of Hulk and Gladiator lifting far more weight than a 100 ton pencil.

But you wouldn't accept it. You would only accept Superman specifically biting someone's face at superspeed.

So using this logic, unless we see Hulk and Glads specifically lifting a 100 ton pencil, they can't?? Of course not.

So back to the original point. Just because a character physically can, doesn't mean they will. We still argue in character here.

I used Flash in my original example. You glossed over it. But he has actually done all that I said (and more) in combat. On the forums, however, no one seriously says he does all of what I said.

abhi vs marvel fanbois thread #10086

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And I can show Superman biting and using superspeed, separately. Just like you can show Hulk lifting a pencil, and lifting far far more than 100tons, separately.

But you wouldn't accept it. You would only accept Superman specifically biting someone's face at superspeed.

So using this logic, unless we see Hulk and Glads specifically lifting a 100 ton pencil, they can't?? Of course not.

So back to the original point. Just because a character physically can, doesn't mean they will. We still argue in character here.

I used Flash in my original example. You glossed over it. But he has actually done all that I said (and more) in combat. On the forums, however, no one seriously says he does all of what I said.

You're just a troll who accuses others of lies but can't prove a single thing.

Shut the **** up already.

Originally posted by JBL
I accept all truths about characters, what I don't accept is lies, and DC fans lie on DC characters all the time.

So you dodge my points on Flash and Superman biting faces off.

The point here is, Superman fans could easily be ten times worse. They're not arguing powerset fights, like Carver is trying to do. Same with Flash fans. They don't just move fast and punch hard.