She had some hashish oil she used medicinally, for pain. Sure, she shouldn't have had it on her when travelling, but nine years hard labor in prison is a ridiculous sentence for that crime. Russians don't get that sentence for similar crimes, it was all politics.
Then again, you probably thought Otto Warmbier got what he deserved because he was an idiot and stole a hotel lobby sign.
Yes, the sentence is ridiculous. But to trade an arms dealing terrorist was ****ing stupid. It also sets a dangerous precedent.
Not to mention there are countless Americans in jail for similar crimes as Griner. Maybe we should be looking to free them since it doesn't involve trading a war criminal...
Originally posted by ares834
Yes, the sentence is ridiculous. But to trade an arms dealing terrorist was ****ing stupid. It also sets a dangerous precedent.Not to mention there are countless Americans in jail for similar crimes as Griner. Maybe we should be looking to free them since it doesn't involve trading a war criminal...
Griner does not deserve to rot in prison for that crime, even if she is stupid. Don't know the full details of the prisoner we exchanged, but if he is a terrorist on top of being an arms dealer, the US has already traded terrorist or just let them go to seal an agreement in the past. Biden did not set a precedent here. I can give you examples if you need.
No argument there. But I'm not one to shit on one good, because another wrong is still happening.
I'm not saying she should rot in prison. I'm saying we should not have released a man who the film Lord of War was based on for her. And I'm sure we've traded terrorists before. That's also not what I'm saying. But trading one for someone who had trumped up charges because she acted like an idiot? I'm certainly unaware of that.
Putin knew he had the upper hand here going in, as the US wanted Griner out more than Putin wanted his guy out, why that man was picked. The Biden admin negotiated it down as the initial offer was that man plus one another for Griner.
The Trump admin negotiated the release of 5,000+ Taliban prisoners for around 1,000 "other side" prisoners, now I'm sure not every single one of them was a hardened jihadist, but with a number in the thousands, I'm sure there were at least more than a few and that was had so peace talks could begin between the Afghan government and the Taliban. Of which it was fruitless as the Taliban just took over as expected all along. So the Biden admin didn't set a 'bad deal' precedent here. Neither did the Trump admin most likely, though it might be in regards to sheer numbers.
Robtard has buttsex with his wife and thinks *imagine if this was me butt****ing DDM or Broly or Methneo and then they got all buttmad because of my big Kirk Robtard dick giving them ass pain while Bashar brags about his own anal adventures in hippy New Joysea...*
This is likely to be true. Only Impediment can confirm, though.
Originally posted by Robtard
The Trump admin negotiated the release of 5,000+ Taliban prisoners for around 1,000 "other side" prisoners, now I'm sure not every single one of them was a hardened jihadist, but with a number in the thousands, I'm sure there were at least more than a few and that was had so peace talks could begin between the Afghan government and the Taliban. Of which it was fruitless as the Taliban just took over as expected all along. So the Biden admin didn't set a 'bad deal' precedent here. Neither did the Trump admin most likely, though it might be in regards to sheer numbers.
There isn't nearly enough context on these prisoners to make a judgement.
Originally posted by Macklemore
Robtard has buttsex with his wife and thinks *imagine if this was me butt****ing DDM or Broly or Methneo and then they got all buttmad because of my big Kirk Robtard dick giving them ass pain while Bashar brags about his own anal adventures in hippy New Joysea...*This is likely to be true. Only Impediment can confirm, though.
Originally posted by Robtard
She had some hashish oil she used medicinally, for pain. Sure, she shouldn't have had it on her when travelling, but nine years hard labor in prison is a ridiculous sentence for that crime. Russians don't get that sentence for similar crimes, it was all politics.Then again, you probably thought Otto Warmbier got what he deserved because he was an idiot and stole a hotel lobby sign.
Marc Fogel.
14 years for bridging greens into Russia. Not marked as wrongfully detained. No one trying to get him released.
This proves beyond argument something is very off here. Not going to pretend to say what it is, but it's a clear double standard.
Originally posted by cdtm
Marc Fogel.14 years for bridging greens into Russia. Not marked as wrongfully detained. No one trying to get him released.
This proves beyond argument something is very off here. Not going to pretend to say what it is, but it's a clear double standard.
I don't agree with that either. He's a moron for entering a foreign country like Russia with marijuana, but the sentence for his crime is absurd, as is the US government's view that he's not wrongfully detained. It's also why we need marijuana to be made federally legal here, as it's weird we chastise other countries for having laws that some of out own states also have.
It's politicos and optics If LeBron James had been arrested in Russia with come cannabis oil, it wouldn't have taken 10 months to release hum like it did Griner, the US would have moved instantly. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
Originally posted by Macklemore
Robtard has buttsex with his wife and thinks *imagine if this was me butt****ing DDM or Broly or Methneo and then they got all buttmad because of my big Kirk Robtard dick giving them ass pain while Bashar brags about his own anal adventures in hippy New Joysea...*This is likely to be true. Only Impediment can confirm, though.
You good, buddy?