World Forger vs the Black Winter

Started by lawest96 pages

World Forger vs the Black Winter

Who wins and why?

Hulk, because he is the most stronger character.

Ok, you don't know.

Lol, sorry. I guess that this is a peak World Forger, isn't? He wins, he created all universes around the multiverse and the hypertime.

Originally posted by deft
Lol, sorry. I guess that this is a peak World Forger, isn't? He wins, he created all universes around the multiverse and the hypertime.

How does that justify a win? It's like saying that X guy beats Y guy because he made a nicer bathroom. The World Forger should be roughly as powerful as his brothers, and one of them was roughly as powerful as Darkseid. Shouldn't we begin there, or what do you think?

Originally posted by Stoic
How does that justify a win? It's like saying that X guy beats Y guy because he made a nicer bathroom. The World Forger should be roughly as powerful as his brothers, and one of them was roughly as powerful as Darkseid. Shouldn't we begin there, or what do you think?

AM of course had to consume multiple universes to contend with Darkseid, so that's a good point.

OTOH, Galactus was consuming multiple planets to contend with BW.

Yes yes blah blah they were special planets etc etc. But planets, Vs universes?

Black Winter was a Universe killer though. Kind of hard to be 100% certain when it comes to the actual power levels in play. It's actually nearly impossible to know how powerful either are. World Forger didn't show omnipotence. Neither did.

Forger created beings who ate universes.

Susan Storm and Reed Richard created Franklin Richards, are they as powerful as him?

Originally posted by wxyz
Susan Storm and Reed Richard created Franklin Richards, are they as powerful as him?
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Actually, his powers come from cosmic radiation (same as theirs).

But just cuz I created a giant robot doesn't mean I'm as strong as it.

And if I was strong enough to easily destroy universes I wouldn't create something to do so.

Not saying either wins its just not the best of logic to use

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
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Actually, his powers come from cosmic radiation (same as theirs).

And being a mutie

Originally posted by Sin I AM
And being a mutie

Just retconned into not being a mutant. He wanted to be special, and his powers transmuted his genetic code to carry the X-gene. He was never a mutant.

Originally posted by wxyz
Susan Storm and Reed Richard created Franklin Richards, are they as powerful as him?

😂

WF is weak. Im giving this to Black Winter and easily.

Originally posted by wxyz
Susan Storm and Reed Richard created Franklin Richards, are they as powerful as him?

Is this a serious argument?
Originally posted by carver9
WF is weak. Im giving this to Black Winter and easily.

Never change carter.

Originally posted by wxyz
Susan Storm and Reed Richard created Franklin Richards, are they as powerful as him?
well this is irrelevant because the wf treated Barbatos like his pet mouse.

And he didn't give birth to Barbatos like Sue did. This is just hilarious. Its like asking how is Galactus more powerful than Silver Surfer.

I remember 1 year ago World Forger would beat Molecule Man on kmc

Black Winter doesn't even register on the radar

forum has seriously gone to shit

Originally posted by abhilegend
And he didn't give birth to Barbatos like Sue did. This is just hilarious. Its like asking how is Galactus more powerful than Silver Surfer.

Not quite the same thing. The Surfer and the rest of the Heralds were purposely imbued with a tiny portion of his might. They all have enough appearances for us to know exactly how powerful they all are (Which includes Galactus to a degree).

What powerhouse did Barbatos fight to get a solid comparison? What powerhouse did World Forger fight in order to give us a solid weight class? Darkseid seems to be the level that he's at if we compare him to his brothers. Not trying to split hairs, but neither of those guys seem capable of waving their hands across the sky and making a universe that they did not create disappear.

Maybe World Forger does stomp, but using a hammer to create a multivrse isn't a battle feat. I don't think that it's unreasonable to question his power level when it comes to actual combat.

In the end, I've been left with the feeling that he simply doesn't have enough in the way of combat showings to place him in the position that many have, and it just seems like a lot of hype surrounds him.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not quite the same thing. The Surfer and the rest of the Heralds were purposely imbued with a tiny portion of his might. They all have enough appearances for us to know exactly how powerful they all are (Which includes Galactus to a degree).

What powerhouse did Barbatos fight to get a solid comparison? What powerhouse did World Forger fight in order to give us a solid weight class? Darkseid seems to be the level that he's at if we compare him to his brothers. Not trying to split hairs, but neither of those guys seem capable of waving their hands across the sky and making a universe that they did not create disappear.

Well he has created literally every universe in the multiverse, so what do you want him to do? Go outside the multiverse to fight someone?

Maybe World Forger does stomp, but using a hammer to create a multivrse isn't a battle feat. I don't think that it's unreasonable to question his power level when it comes to actual combat.

No, that's simply dumb. Comic writers don't tend to think of "combat feats".

In the end, I've been left with the feeling that he simply doesn't have enough in the way of combat showings to place him in the position that many have, and it just seems like a lot of hype surrounds him.

The comic literally says he is among the four most powerful beings in the whole multiverse, he creates hypertime, every universe in the multiverse and a second multiverse and you think that's just hype? Dude, most abstracts in marvel would kill for that kind of feats in so little time.

But sure, let's talk about Eternity's combat feats. That's above Black Winter, right?