Dr Doom vs Hal Jordan

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Dr Doom vs Hal Jordan

which one has more willpower?

Hal

Doom
If Doom had the ring he would dig down to the core of the ring's essence and be come a universal lantern. The will of Doom is absolute.

Originally posted by Aakla
Doom
If Doom had the ring he would dig down to the core of the ring's essence and be come a universal lantern. The will of Doom is absolute.

whose sock is this

Doom overcame PR Beyonder, he wins here.

Jordans a punk compared to Doom

Hal. I'm not even convinced Doom could possibly wield a ring. He has a lot of character flaws

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Hal. I'm not even convinced Doom could possibly wield a ring. He has a lot of character flaws

Doom would wield the ring far better than any Lantern ever did.

The fun fact is he would probably be able to wield multiple rings namely Green, Red and either Yellow or (and I say this readily) orange, Dr Doom's will power is one of the most notable characteristic about him. The guy had nearly every atom of his being broken and still healed himself and survived for thousands of years just to kill the Marquis of death. That’s will power as ****
Literally Over several decades he has been consistently determined to free his mother’s soul from the grips of Mephisto. Despite loses continuous to try (has defeated him a few times with help)

Willpower alone doesn't determine ringslinging ability. This is fact.

I don't think so, since Secret Wars his ego (or lack thereof) has shown he really has an inferiority complex when it comes to Reed. It's downplayed on the board but it's mentioned enough in canon to warrant an argument. In any event without prep and in a random encounter Hal is too much for him.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I don't think so, since Secret Wars his ego (or lack thereof) has shown he really has an inferiority complex when it comes to Reed. It's downplayed on the board but it's mentioned enough in canon to warrant an argument. In any event without prep and in a random encounter Hal is too much for him.

after Secret Wars he had show many times that he had appreciation for Reeds intellect. More so mentioned in Infamous Ironman. The superiority complex doesn’t in any way impede his will power or worthiness of a ring.

After the Marquis of death caused the atoms in his body to die and sent him back millions of years....

he spent those million of years fighting and using the black arts to change his atoms so they wouldn’t fail him. All to get him back to the final moments of the Marquis of Death where he killed him. That’s a pure and unadulterated showing of his will power to survive:

Will power is literally your drive or motivation to do/complete/accomplish something. Doom has shown exactly how far that could go to a multiversal scale.

Willpower alone isn't how the rings work. It has more to do with overcoming fear.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Willpower alone isn't how the rings work. It has more to do with overcoming fear.

And you're ignoring Each ring is different. But what fear does doom have? And don’t say Reed Richards being smarter then him. That has been talked about in past and current comics.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
And you're ignoring Each ring is different. But what fear does doom have? And don’t say Reed Richards being smarter then him. That has been talked about in past and current comics.

I'm not referring to every spectrum. I'm specifically talking about the green lantern ring. His fear is being second. His fear is not being good enough, the whole premise of secret ware showed how enviable he was of Reed's life even when he had god-like powers. So yes he knows fear. As shown on panel which imo precludes him from being a good candidate.

But as far as the thread goes Hal ftw

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I'm not referring to every spectrum. I'm specifically talking about the green lantern ring. His fear is being second. His fear is not being good enough, the whole premise of secret ware showed how enviable he was of Reed's life even when he had god-like powers. So yes he knows fear. As shown on panel which imo precludes him from being a good candidate.

But as far as the thread goes Hal ftw

😂 Secret War happened 5 years ago. In that time in a Marvel 2 in One he confronted himself on this. It is not and never was a fear.

here’s one of them. This is him talking to himself. Clearly states it was all a challenge:

later on he reconciled with the council of Reed. They confirm everything that happened during Secret Wars. The only thing he was unsure of was if using the beyonders power he was brainwashed. Reed showed that it was not the case via dooms own memories:

the thing between both Doom and Reed isn’t a thing of fear. It’s just about a thing of respect. But it’s more about challenges and ego. He simply believes he is right. This has been shown during the Doomwar story where he met the panther god

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Willpower alone doesn't determine ringslinging ability. This is fact.
What are the other factors that determine this ability?