Thor & Wonder Woman run the gauntlet

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Zod isn't beating Stormbreaker Thor. Him and Clark have zero fighting skills to speak of.

And Clark showed zero reaction feats as of bvs to say he was anywhere close to JL levels.

I cope just fine. If this was JL superman I have zero problem admitting he would solo Thor, WW and a handful of Avengers as well.

Yall do know its ok for Clark to lose every once in awhile. Yall are so obsessed with him always winning and being the best at everything its a little creepy

Retard Alert, he grabbed a batman grenade launched at him. Thats no reaction speed?

Are you a retard?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Doesn’t matter how fast Superman is moving, he still needs to enter Thor's lightning cloak in order to hit him. And if Cyborg's blast can stagger Superman, you can bet he isn't just walking through Thor's lightning cloak. At the very least it should also stagger him.

Also, it should be noted that Superman wasn't moving faster than the electricity/lightning surrounding Flash when they fought in slow-mo.

Thor's lightning cloak as been effective against mooks only. Cyborg's blast only annoyed Superman anyway.

Originally posted by Silent Master
ShadowFyre asked the thread starter which version of Superman and the thread starter specified the one that fought Doomsday. IOW, BvS Superman.

Superman was specified in the OP. That means all movies feats.
The OP can't change his mind later and use a different version just because someone ask. You should know this. You argued against changing the stips to the thread after the allowed time many times. Now you want to be a hypocrite?

Per the rules, the stips can be updated/clarified within the first several posts

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f102/t543649.html

7) When the thread starter makes a new thread, it is very important to cement the conditions of the scenario in the first few posts. This is to avoid confusion
and frustration among the other posters. It will not be acceptable for the thread starter to randomly change the conditions of the thread at random intervals. Once the settings/weapons/gear/handicaps/abilities/etc have been cemented in the first few posts of the thread, that is how they will stay. Therefore, be very sure and for certain of how you want your thread to be constructed.

Which the thread starter did, he specified this is the Superman that fought Doomsday. IE BvS Superman.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Thor's lightning cloak as been effective against mooks only. Cyborg's blast only annoyed Superman anyway.

Thor’s lightning has better feats that Zod's ship blast or Cyborg's blast. And I never said it was enough to take out Superman, simply stagger him the same way Cyborg's blast staggered Superman.

If you'll notice, DCEU Superman was never able to simply walk through any energy attack.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Per the rules, the stips can be updated/clarified within the first several posts

Which the thread starter did, he specified this is the Superman that fought Doomsday. IE BvS Superman.

What's a few? He changed his mind a day later.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Thor’s lightning has better feats that Zod's ship blast or Cyborg's blast. And I never said it was enough to take out Superman, simply stagger him the same way Cyborg's blast staggered Superman.

If you'll notice, DCEU Superman was never able to simply walk through any energy attack.

No it doesn't. The fact that it staggered Superman is a better feat than the lightning.

Originally posted by h1a8
No it doesn't. The fact that it staggered Superman is a better feat than the lightning.

You can't use an argument to argue for the same argument. That's circular logic.

Originally posted by FrothByte
You can't use an argument to argue for the same argument. That's circular logic.

Ya see! You're not actually making any progress! In order to get one must give.

Originally posted by h1a8
What's a few? He changed his mind a day later.

The 4th post in the thread is the thread starter clarifying which Superman.

Originally posted by FrothByte
[BThor’s lightning has better feats that Zod's ship blast or Cyborg's blast. And I never said it was enough to take out Superman, simply stagger him the same way Cyborg's blast staggered Superman.

If you'll notice, DCEU Superman was never able to simply walk through any energy attack.[/B]

Based on what? Zod's ship blast pushed back Superman, a being that can casually tow an icebreaker and survive a nuke. Cyborg mildly annoyed him, just look at his expression. Thor's lightning cloak has hurt nobody of note, so to say that it hurt Superman to the point of preventing him from attacking is a bit of a reach.

Superman withstood and overpowered the energy beam of the World Engine, which was flattening skyscrapers on the other side of the planet, and he was depowered when this happened. It's up to you to prove that Thor's lightning cloak is stronger than that.

Also, Wonder Woman is in the fight. Is Thor going to risk hurting an ally with an AoE attack? Seems a bit out of character to me. He didn't do that in IW or Endgame.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The 4th post in the thread is the thread starter clarifying which Superman.

A "few" is not well defined. The mod also talked about random intervals of time (a day later).

Do .. better

Originally posted by FrothByte
You can't use an argument to argue for the same argument. That's circular logic.

Superman tanked HV blasts in which lesser HV has sliced an I-beam in one swipe. According to Newton's law of heating (cooling). The temperature of the HV was many times higher than that of melting structural steel.

Even if Superman didn't have any feats against energy then we can't say how powerful Zod's ship blasts or Cyborg blasts are just because they have no other feats. They both come from technology far above humans. And humans have some plucking powerful energy blasts.

I don't understand why we are playing is bvs vs Justice League thing. We all know Superman was brand new at this so it would make sense for him to get more powerful throughout the movies literally like every other f****** superhero. Superman is going to get stronger and push his limits. Him, Diana, and Doomsday were all operating at what seemed equal speeds in BVS. And then he statues her in JL. A clear upgrade

I guess not using JL Superman is more fair.
I'm ok with it as long as everyone else is.

The debate is whether we can scale Steppenwolf to WW speed or not. In other words, Did WW fail to use her speed on Steppenwolf or does Steppenwolf possess comparable speed to WW? The answer to that question determines ls how far the two make it.

I dont care either. But JL Superman decimates them. Here is a quick list of characters faster than him in movies off the top of my head who utilize pure speed

Other Supermen
Flashes
Armor Mothra
Fox Quicksilver

Thats pretty much ****ing it. He either statues or gets statued and it makes for spiteful/boring matches

BvS Superman still has feats like overwhelming Faora (who has a legit speed blitz feat) and flying from the Arctic to Metroplis in a few seconds, so even limited to those two movies he's still considerably faster than Thor. I just don't see Thor landing a hit with Stormbreaker if Superman is fighting at his best.