Originally posted by FrothByteThis is stupid as phuck. Are you saying Thor's lightning cloak should be extrapolated from A1 or Infinity War's biggest lightning attack? Lol
His lightning cloak is made up of his lightning.His lightning as slammed Thanos to the ground. Knocked Hela off a tower. Completely knocked Hulk flat on his ass.
But sure if you want a more specific example, he used his lightning cloak to knock Hela around a bit in their final fight.
And if you think we shouldn't assume that every lightning attack Thor throws is the same power, then we also shouldn't assume every attack Superman throws can be done at the same speed.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
This is stupid as phuck. Are you saying Thor's lightning cloak should be extrapolated from A1 or Infinity War's biggest lightning attack? Lol
No. I'm saying his lightning can potentially be as strong as his stronger strikes if he needs it to be. Same way just because a person hits you with a light punch doesn't mean they can't put more power behind it if necessary.
But like I said if you want a more direct comparison, then he used similar lightning against Hela in their bridge fight. Similar lightning also to the one he used to knock Hulk off him.
Even if we use the weakest lightning Thor had used, they have always been able to, at the very least, stagger his opponents.
In comparison, Superman has zero feats of not being staggered by an energy attack.
Golden rule in the mvf is that feats matter the most.
Post Hela's and Hulk's clips.
You are applying plain bad logic.
Just because Superman was staggered by another energy attack doesn't suddenly mean any energy based attack will affect him, let alone to the extent you're implying lol. You'd have to prove said attack to be = or >.
Otherwise, I can turn it around and ask, when has Thor not been koed by a blitzing punch from someone with Superman's strength, durability and speed?
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Post Hela's and Hulk's clips.You are applying plain bad logic.
Just because Superman was staggered by another energy attack doesn't suddenly mean any energy based attack will affect him, let alone to the extent you're implying lol. You'd have to prove said attack to be = or >.
Otherwise, I can turn it around and ask, when has Thor not been koed by a blitzing punch from someone with Superman's strength, durability and speed?
False equivalence. A proper equivalence would be saying Thor has never been punched by someone exactly like Superman in the same way that Superman has never been hit by something exactly like Thor's lightning. However, Thor has been hit by super strong opponents before and Superman has been hit by energy attacks before, so that's what we're using to compare.
What we do know is that Thor's lightning is very destructive and has multiple feats of knocking superpowered beings off their feet whereas Superman has zero feats of not being staggered by energy attacks.
My argument is based on feats. Now if you want to claim that Superman can simply walk through Thor's lightning without it bothering him in the least, onus is on you to provide proof of that since it goes against everything we've seen so far.
Froth is saying that if a character was barely affected by an energy attack then they will also be affected by an energy attack that is more than 100x weaker.
He's saying that Thor will be staggered and affected by any energy attack no matter how weak BECAUSE he was affected in the star feat.
He refused to see the logic that a significantly weaker attack will do nothing (in terms of slowing a character down) if a stronger attack barely affected the character.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I didn't type incorrectly, you just couldn't keep up with the conversation.
Yeah you did. You are either lying or don't know English well.
Originally posted by FrothByteI'm just disputing the fact that lightning cloak would somehow stagger him when it only affected fodder. You are simply dancing around the point, being careful with your wording misrepresenting my stance and making ridiculous claims. Lol
False equivalence. A proper equivalence would be saying Thor has never been punched by someone exactly like Superman in the same way that Superman has never been hit by something exactly like Thor's lightning. However, Thor has been hit by super strong opponents before and Superman has been hit by energy attacks before, so that's what we're using to compare.What we do know is that Thor's lightning is very destructive and has multiple feats of knocking superpowered beings off their feet whereas Superman has zero feats of not being staggered by energy attacks.
My argument is based on feats. Now if you want to claim that Superman can simply walk through Thor's lightning without it bothering him in the least, onus is on you to provide proof of that since it goes against everything we've seen so far.
Originally posted by h1a8👆
Froth is saying that if a character was barely affected by an energy attack then they will also be affected by an energy attack that is more than 100x weaker.He's saying that Thor will be staggered and affected by any energy attack no matter how weak BECAUSE he was affected in the star feat.
He refused to see the logic that a significantly weaker attack will do nothing (in terms of slowing a character down) if a stronger attack barely affected the character.
Yeah you did. You are either lying or don't know English well.
It's one of the most baffling arguments I've ever seen in this side of the forums tbh. I'm pretty sure they are mostly just trolling you.