Who can tank Superboy Prime multiversal punch against BWL

Started by GalacticStorm11 pages
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
TBH, Alberto is a troll basically is a fact in this forum. 😕

I can only go by what ive witnessed and he strikes me less of a troll and more of someone with views and perspectives that seem at odds with a lot of the current KMC crowd. That isnt a troll.

I just think if people would also look at themselves and the way they construct arguments and the solidity of the evidence they present then they might see some shortfalls which are factors in why people arent being won over

Who knows. Im gonna be around for a little longer so lets see how things turn out 👆

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except the visual and dialogue didnt support your words.
From the visual I already posted and addressed why I think Darkest Knight vs Wonder Woman takes place before SBP fighting Darkest Knight. So its you should give me solid proofs that this fight takes place after SBP and DNs fight
But you can't, Because you didn't even read the comic yet. So why not waiting until the comic comes out before making conjectural and trolling posts 😈

😂 You can't BE this retarded, the worlds are STILL intact behind the battle
So the supposed worlds he broke are still there, You THEN see Prime in BWL glare incapacitated, or could be dead an inactive Prime. The scan is literally self explanatory, you're just that dense. Stop debating in general my guy

It absolutely takes place after SBP and DN's fight, what I said isn't up fir dispute.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I can only go by what ive witnessed and he strikes me less of a troll and more of someone with views and perspectives that seem at odds with a lot of the current KMC crowd. That isnt a troll.

I just think if people would also look at themselves and the way they construct arguments and the solidity of the evidence they present then they might see some shortfalls which are factors in why people arent being won over

Who knows. Im gonna be around for a little longer so lets see how things turn out 👆

I agree with your opinions and views about debaters and how they should do when make a debate. 👆
It just Alberto has a record of trolling........

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 You can't BE this retarded, the worlds are STILL intact behind the battle
So the supposed worlds he broke are still there, You THEN see Prime in BWL glare incapacitated, or could be dead an inactive Prime. The scan is literally self explanatory, you're just that dense. Stop debating in general my guy
Wait, First of all, you reverse the order of those scans. WW looks into future and sees SBP, Then the next scan shows worlds are still intact.
And you are contradicting yourself. The comic that SBP fighting with DN end up destroying DN's worlds. And you pointed out in that scan those worlds are still intact. It actually helps me to prove that this fight takes place before SBP and DN's fight.

People who would tank it

Mxy

Spectre

Lucifer

that's it, they are the only ones with concrete feats that they can tank it

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
God Doom, Spectre, Wonder Woman (Hecate), Pre-retcon Beyonder, IG Thanos.

This multiversal/retcon punch at this point is a forum fabrication. There is no conclusive evidence for it. There are certainly allusions to some ability that other Superman analogues dont have but nothing has been confirmed to rule out it being a result of what he was hitting (multiversal structure) and the status at the time of who he was hitting (i.e DK after an extended fight with Perpetua, then fighting SBP whilst simultaneously powering a multiversal transition hence SBPs blows causing changes)

Not saying he doesnt have some extra ability. Just saying it has not been confirmed on panel, its been alluded to and left open to interpretation.

you pick god doom and IG but didn't pick Lucifer and Mxy? wut?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It absolutely takes place after SBP and DN's fight, what I said isn't up fir dispute.
I must say, You're really arrogant to say at least. I mean you don't even have the comic just some preview and yet you still make such claim 😕

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
SBP also changed the history of a corrupted Superman by hitting him.
Also it has been shown multiple times on panel that SBP did have retcon punch(Or whatever name you want to call it) . On the contrary.There is no evidence to prove the theory/fabrication of SBP can change reality is due to his conditions
Put it in simple in this argument the side that arguing SBP needs some certain condition to perform his reality-warping ability should be the one who providing conclusive evidence that SBP needs certain conditions to do a retcon punch, not vice versa
Because the comics have constantly shown SBP can change reality/break reality and never specifically mentioned it was due to some certain conditions to allow SBP to do that.

🤦‍♂️ He didn't break reality there, those were his dreams of a perfect earth where he is loved and not hated. Which were gone when he delivered the final blow and died.
the only reason it happened and was even possible is because the wall between the universe and Paradise Dimension was physically manifested in front of him, he wanted to break it and jump into the universe but could only damage it which altered events, then with Alex Luthor's help, empowering him with Anti-Matter power he managed to break free after hours of punching and managed to slip into the universe.
it ONLY happened because of the place he was in and because of the wall, it's not something that happens in any normal place and mid fight, he can't for example fight someone and be like "oh ok I'll retcon punch him out of existence durr ".

It's not something applicable in any debate, period.

People definition of a troll on KMC - someone that disagrees with them. Lol

Originally posted by MrMind
People who would tank it

Mxy

Spectre

Lucifer

that's it, they are the only ones with concrete feats that they can tank it

you pick god doom and IG but didn't pick Lucifer and Mxy? wut?

😂 Legion came back from being wiped from existence. He even wiped himself out of existence and came back quickly to be inside of another person's mind.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
🤦‍♂️ He didn't break reality there, those were his dreams of a perfect earth where he is loved and not hated. Which were gone when he delivered the final blow and died.
the only reason it happened and was even possible is because the wall between the universe and Paradise Dimension was physically manifested in front of him, he wanted to break it and jump into the universe but could only damage it which altered events, then with Alex Luthor's help, empowering him with Anti-Matter power he managed to break free after hours of punching and managed to slip into the universe.
it ONLY happened because of the place he was in and because of the wall, it's not something that happens in any normal place and mid fight, he can't for example fight someone and be like "oh ok I'll retcon punch him out of existence durr ".

It's not something applicable in any debate, period.

It was a shame that none of those you said actually stated on comics.
Actually, Some comic completely opposing what you said
"or maybe it was a trick or something, but.....I know it's not.Im home.Im really back"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#34
So keep your headcanon for yourslef 🙂

Edit:Also weren't the heroes who said DN's multiverse was vanishing? So how did it have anything to do with SBP dreams?
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#29

Originally posted by carver9
People definition of a troll on KMC - someone that disagrees with them. Lol

I just quote Pr, tbh.

Originally posted by carver9
People definition of a troll on KMC - someone that disagrees with them. Lol

I’ve never seen DS and saint ever insult Trollberto. But you have Trollberto calling QWERTY a Retard and DS and ignorant troll.

Insulting respected members here without any provocation looks like a disagreement to you?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
It was a shame that none of those you said actually stated on comics.
Actually, Some comic completely opposing what you said
"or maybe it was a trick or something, but.....I know it's not.Im home.Im really back"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#34
So keep your headcanon for yourslef 🙂

Edit:Also weren't the heroes who said DN's multiverse was vanishing? So how did it have anything to do with SBP dreams?
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Secret-Origin/Full?id=179488#29

the ending has nothing to do with SBP's power. He actually died. It's just that WW brings him back at the end of Death metal and recreates his timeline

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
the ending has nothing to do with SBP's power. He actually died. It's just that WW brings him back at the end of Death metal and recreates his timeline
So we both agree that DN's multiverse should be vanishing after SBP and DN's fight? But from the scan that you referred to those worlds are still intact. Thus it was reasonable to say this fight takes place before SBP and DN's fight
Concession accepted

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So we both agree that DN's multiverse should be vanishing after SBP and DN's fight? But from the scan that you referred to those worlds are still intact. Thus it was reasonable to say this fight takes place before SBP and DN's fight
Concession accepted

😂 You interpreted that as agreeing with you? Yeah no you're still hugely wrong. "Should" isn't the same as definite.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 You interpreted that as agreeing with you? Yeah no you're still hugely wrong. "Should" isn't the same as definite.
Because Im not some arrogant, ineducable dude with severe illusory superiority complex. 😄
Ill wait until the actual comic comes out and read it before making a determined claim or even using it as a proof in a debate.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Because Im not some arrogant, ineducable dude with severe illusory superiority complex. 😄
Ill wait until the actual comic comes out and read it before making a determined claim or even using it as a proof in a debate.

You didn't say anything relevant, what happened in the end isn't even explained, even Prime doesn't know what happened exactly. The fact still remains that he died and his corpse is still there lying on the ground getting licked by Krypto.

for the worlds that the BWL summoned, it was SAID they were vanishing but they were still there if you read the "Death Metal the Latest 52" where the worlds were still there and they were all still fighting.
Also him changing those earths isn't done by him directly, it's literally shown in the scan that he is questioning the possibility of changing them THROUGH killing BWL.

Prime after the events of Infinite Crisis and prior Death Metal, was pushed to his limits in some fights, sometimes he had to try hard, yet none of his attacks even retconned anything. It's not an "ability" unique to him, period.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You didn't say anything relevant, what happened in the end isn't even explained, even Prime doesn't know what happened exactly. The fact still remains that he died and his corpse is still there lying on the ground getting licked by Krypto.

for the worlds that the BWL summoned, it was SAID they were vanishing but they were still there if you read the "Death Metal the Latest 52" where the worlds were still there and they were all still fighting.
Also him changing those earths isn't done by him directly, it's literally shown in the scan that he is questioning the possibility of changing them THROUGH killing BWL.

😂
Death Metal the Latest 52 is before SBP and DNs fight
As you can see in Superman's story, until the last two scans Cyborg Superman,Zod, Lex joined Superman
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Dark-Nights-Death-Metal-The-Last-52-War-of-the-Multiverses/TPB?id=179776#25
And during SBP's story, Superman already teamed up with them and fought those corrupted Supermen
https://postimg.cc/bsc7WCX4
Again, You help me further prove my point LMAO