Originally posted by xJLxKingI’m asking, whether or not Knull killed the celestial or not. Or did he just mind control them.
Knull has killed Celestials in the past. The three he came to Earth with were alive and controlled by him. So Sentry did kill a living Celestial.
I'm more curious what's the case: The Celestial not being at the peak of its power due to Knulls control, or the Celestial being even more powerful due to the enhancement of the Symbiotes. Or do these two things cancel each other out? No clue. I'd argue that Symbiote hosts get stronger, but those hosts are usually not cosmic entities on the level of Celestials. Symbiotes are maybe too simple-minded to utilize the power of a Celestial fully. Or does that happen automatically and the Celestials at that point and evil and enhanced?
So many questions, so little answers.
Originally posted by TheHulksterSo are we officially giving Sentry a Celestial killing feat?
Of course we are.
Have you paid attention to how Sentry is always introduced in comics and outside of comics? When Marvel introduces Thor, they refer to him as the God of Thunder. When they introduce the Sentry, they refer to him as the most powerful superhero in existence. And that carries over from one writer to another. So it's just fitting to have the Sentry kill a cosmic entity every now and then.
Originally posted by Enzeru
Of course we are.Have you paid attention to how Sentry is always introduced in comics and outside of comics? When Marvel introduces Thor, they refer to him as the God of Thunder. When they introduce the Sentry, they refer to him as the most powerful superhero in existence. And that carries over from one writer to another. So it's just fitting to have the Sentry kill a cosmic entity every now and then.
They also referred to Sentry as the God of light.
Originally posted by carver9They also referred to Sentry as the God of light.
You mean in "King in Black: Black Cat #1", right?
I think that's just a decay by now. Originally I did think that Sentry might play a big, big role in the event – maybe even as the teased God of Light, who is supposed to be Knulls opposite...
But the way Sentry was taken care of by Knull, I don't see him just swooping in in the last issue and taking care of business. That would be too much of a Deus Ex Machina moment, especially if you don't read the tie-in comics and miss out on the context. And there will be context. Sentry will appear in "King in Black: Return of the Valkyries" and "King in Black: Thunderbolts". So he still seems important in some way, shape or form":
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Nah, Magnon, the Celestial is already dead.
Dude, stop.
1. When Knull killed Celestials the patterns on their head stopped glowing (aka their lights went out). The Celestials in King in Black had their lights still on.
2. When Sentry killed the Celestial, Knull was pretty damn upset about it. Why would he care, if his symbiotes were just controlling an empty shell?
3. Symbiotes... require... living... hosts..? Basic Marvel knowledge? Or have there been any instances, where symbiotes went along with a dead host?
Sentry killed an amped Celestial (because symbiotes usually empower their hosts). Deal with it. The only argument you could possibly make, is that the Celestials were weaker due to the rather simple symbiotes limiting the power potential of the cosmic Celestials. That's usually also not what really happens, but I'd still be willing to give you that small victory. Other than that, stop misinterpreting or straight up lying.
Originally posted by Enzeru
You mean in "King in Black: Black Cat #1", right?I think that's just a decay by now. Originally I did think that Sentry might play a big, big role in the event – maybe even as the teased God of Light, who is supposed to be Knulls opposite...
But the way Sentry was taken care of by Knull, I don't see him just swooping in in the last issue and taking care of business. That would be too much of a Deus Ex Machina moment, especially if you don't read the tie-in comics and miss out on the context. And there will be context. Sentry will appear in "King in Black: Return of the Valkyries" and "King in Black: Thunderbolts". So he still seems important in some way, shape or form":Dude, stop.
1. When Knull killed Celestials the patterns on their head stopped glowing (aka their lights went out). The Celestials in King in Black had their lights still on.
2. When Sentry killed the Celestial, Knull was pretty damn upset about it. Why would he care, if his symbiotes were just controlling an empty shell?
3. Symbiotes... require... living... hosts..? Basic Marvel knowledge? Or have there been any instances, where symbiotes went along with a dead host?Sentry killed an amped Celestial (because symbiotes usually empower their hosts). Deal with it. The only argument you could possibly make, is that the Celestials were weaker due to the rather simple symbiotes limiting the power potential of the cosmic Celestials. That's usually also not what really happens, but I'd still be willing to give you that small victory. Other than that, stop misinterpreting or straight up lying.
You are really missing the point, lmao.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
That Celestial is already dead and it's body is being controlled by Knull.
THAT is why I said it was dead. Because a mere page later:
Originally posted by TheHulkster
So are we officially giving Sentry a Celestial killing feat?
Same guy says the Celestials were alive for Sentry to kill.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
The Celestial is already dead. You can't kill something that is already dead. Plus, all Sentry does is fly through the back of it to get to Knull who is inside. There is no other effect on it.
Don't jump into things without getting the context.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 aye saint we can do a meta or herald bz whenever you want buddy. Let me know. I offered abhi but we all know he's terrified. shows how much fear i put in you dudes
I'm still awaiting the Batman vs Knull BZ challenge I gave, which you then said I had no chance of winning (which means that you have already thought about it). 6 months self-banning. Stop dancing around.
If you want I can do Superman with prep vs Knull, lol.