So what's up with "gender inclusive language"?

Is it true house rules say you can't use the term "father", "son", "mother", "daughter"?

Why? I mean, I'm supportive of inclusiveness and diversity, and being sensitive to other people, but the fact is most of us identify as a binary. I totally call my "baba" my father, and wouldn't be comfortable doing anything else.

I don't do this to make one who identifes as non binary uncomfortable. That's simply who I am. I identify as man, use gended pronouns in my family, I'm comfortable with that, and have no desire to change this.

So again, why? Why does everyone else need to adopt a language that is ultimately forcing them into a behavior they likely aren't comfortable with?

Because they want to control speech.

They're authoritarian.

Far better to use gender exclusive language.

Example

Instead of

He/she is a ¢unt

You could say

You are a cuπt

Or better yet

Shut up, you cuπt.

Originally posted by cdtm
Is it true house rules say you can't use the term "father", "son", "mother", "daughter"?

Why? I mean, I'm supportive of inclusiveness and diversity, and being sensitive to other people, but the fact is most of us identify as a binary. I totally call my "baba" my father, and wouldn't be comfortable doing anything else.

I don't do this to make one who identifes as non binary uncomfortable. That's simply who I am. I identify as man, use gended pronouns in my family, I'm comfortable with that, and have no desire to change this.

So again, why? Why does everyone else need to adopt a language that is ultimately forcing them into a behavior they likely aren't comfortable with?

I don't think anyone is suggesting that you don't call your own father a father. Usually inclusive language is used when addressing a group of people of which you don't know the specific circumstances. The level of that with which you are comfortable with you have to decide for yourself (or in a professional setting the rules may be decided for you), but tbh everyone is doing that already anyways to differing levels. Like if your friend Timmy's dad has died and you are addressing your friend groups you probably won't say "lets all go with our fathers to the BBQ", because you know that's a dick move to Timmy.

Gender inclusive language is basically this kind of thoughtfulness on a larger level where you don't know the specifics of the situation.

Does this have some strange relationship with the LGBT Community?

If so, it is likely wrong.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Does this have some strange relationship with the LGBT Community?

If so, it is likely wrong.

What's your problem with LGBT people?

Personally, my religion speaks strongly against, so I do as well.

From a scientific point of view, it simply defies nature.

The Bible also speaks against a lot of other stuff you probably don't have problems with. Like shellfish. Surely you have more specific reasons for what you see wrong with LGBT people besides there being a few mentions in the Old Testament (which Jesus Christ said believe in him supersedes anyways).

Scientifically we know that homosexuality occurs all throughout nature, and there's nothing to suggest it is unnatural. And with gender being a human construct, not a natural one it seems irrelevant whether it is natural or not.

Originally posted by Artol
The Bible also speaks against a lot of other stuff you probably don't have problems with. Like shellfish. Surely you have more specific reasons for what you see wrong with LGBT people besides there being a few mentions in the Old Testament (which Jesus Christ said believe in him supersedes anyways).

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-Chapter-1/

If they do turn to God, then they were never actually homosexual. Instead, they were confused.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
I understand your point of view, but the Bible states that all homosexuals are reprobates (people that will never turn to God). This is stated in the New Testament and after Jesus died.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-Chapter-1/

If they do turn to God, then they were never actually homosexual. Instead, they were confused.

I have a book that says Christians are retards. Now what?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I have a book that says Christians are retards. Now what?

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
I didn't know Satan was giving out books? 😑

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
how's your grandfather and Lumin?

I was 12/13 years old when I made that shit up for a Star Wars debate.

Though, I do not see how that has anything to do with the now. 😬

Originally posted by cdtm
Is it true house rules say you can't use the term "father", "son", "mother", "daughter"?

Why? I mean, I'm supportive of inclusiveness and diversity, and being sensitive to other people, but the fact is most of us identify as a binary. I totally call my "baba" my father, and wouldn't be comfortable doing anything else.

I don't do this to make one who identifes as non binary uncomfortable. That's simply who I am. I identify as man, use gended pronouns in my family, I'm comfortable with that, and have no desire to change this.

So again, why? Why does everyone else need to adopt a language that is ultimately forcing them into a behavior they likely aren't comfortable with?

If your dad identifies as a male, and is okay being called "father", then call him that.

Gender inclusive language is, generally, used when you don't know someone's gender, are addressing mixed groups, or addressing non-binary individuals.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Personally, my religion speaks strongly against, so I do as well.

From a scientific point of view, it simply defies nature.

He shan't go down without a fight sir.

The 2 Greatest Threats to Freedom. Health Nazis and Fake Grammar Nazis.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
You remember that? 😂

I was 12/13 years old when I made that shit up for a Star Wars debate.

Though, I do not see how that has anything to do with the now. 😬

Originally posted by StyleTime
That is not what gender inclusive language means. You're overthinking it.

If your dad identifies as a male, and is okay being called "father", then call him that.

Gender inclusive language is, generally, used when you don't know someone's gender, are addressing mixed groups, or addressing non-binary individuals.

And that would be fine. But reading through the house rules, it looks like they're saying to replace binary descriptors in all cases, regardless. Which doesn't make much sense to me.

Unless there's an a narrow way these rules get applied that I'm not seeing.

Incidentally and slightly off topic, have you read the rules? I was going down the list, and some of them were raising flags.. The one where you can't table talks of declaring war, for example. That sounds unnecessary and potentially harmful..

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
I understand your point of view, but the Bible states that all homosexuals are reprobates (people that will never turn to God). This is stated in the New Testament and after Jesus died.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-Chapter-1/

If they do turn to God, then they were never actually homosexual. Instead, they were confused.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
so what’s the excuse for all the little boys that f*cked by you lot ?

They're monsters, is the reason.

Unfortunately, the truth is this isn't unique to one religion. For example:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.lastampa.it/vatican-insider/en/2011/12/15/news/u-s-paedophilia-scandal-among-orthodox-jews-in-brooklyn-1.36914054/amp/

And heck, it isn't even unique to religion, period. Not even the part where certain religions covered up for their members, that kind of thing happens in secular settings all the time, like Hollywood, Corporate, or tight knit communities full of people who know one another.

Originally posted by StyleTime
You are trying really hard to replace Star, eh?

He shan't go down without a fight sir.

Old Man Whirly! So you are 15 now?