So what's up with "gender inclusive language"?

What about "XX men"? Or "Y chromosome women"?

^ Possibly. I think we'll just come up with a new name. Labels like "Uterus-bearers", "Birthing people", and "people who have a uterus" just sound unpleasant tbh. "Creator" sounds too clinical.

We as a society only just started thinking about this issue in relation to child birth, so I expect a lot a new terms to appear and die off. We'll settle on something eventually, possibly an acronym. POC stuck for people of color, so maybe we'll see CBP(child-bearing person), UOP(uterus owning person) or something.

Maybe repurpose a word no one uses much anymore. I'm just spitballin' ideas here.

Originally posted by cdtm
What about "XX men"? Or "Y chromosome women"?

Problem is that almost no one knows their chromosomes. We only assume based on phenotype.

Originally posted by Artol
Problem is that almost no one knows their chromosomes. We only assume based on phenotype.

Nowadays, true. Didn't they run studies back in the day though?

Originally posted by cdtm
Nowadays, true. Didn't they run studies back in the day though?

Well, you can find out your chromosomes, it’s just generally useless, cause why would you need that info.

Amen is Latin for so be it. It such a stupid moment. Kind of encapsulates the woke movement perfectly for me tbh.

"Amen" is from Classical Hebrew.

He was also making a joke, using the pun in reference to the record number of women serving in Congress this term.

Originally posted by Neon1234
Sounds retarded.

Well, you are retarded, so you would know.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Personally, my religion speaks strongly against, so I do as well.

From a scientific point of view, it simply defies nature.

Originally posted by SamZED
Always found this argument fascinating. Often used by conservatives in Russia to justify homophobic policies. Meanwhile, it's absolutely common in nature among animals including humans. Unless you define nature as "producing as many babies as possible by any means necessary even sacrificing individual freedoms/preferences". At that point might as well force women to be baby factories because it's "natural" and contributes to our survival. Doesn't lead to a healthy society.

I have had one of my dogs try to hump the other many times. Though yes, it can be done for pleasure, it is also done to show dominance. Same gender animals do not mate for life, or, really, at all.

What does sperm do? Why, it feeds and fertilizes the egg of a female. Okay, what does it do for men of the same gender? Absolutely nothing but sicknesses. Men are not equipped to have sex with each other at all, and debating that they are is simply illogical.

And yes, if sacrificing evil freedoms/preferences was possible, I would do it in a heartbeat.

I don't see women as baby factories. I see them as a compatible mate that God has made beautiful for men to live with and be blessed by. If I found out that my wife was infertile, it isn't like I would kick her to the curb or something. That is ridiculous.

I literally see zero benefits for homosexuality being legal at all.

Therefore, Russia and I gladly wear the Homophobe Sticker. 👆

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
I have had a few dogs myself. They are animals. Do us humans, in that case, also live like animals? No, we are obviously above them.

I have had one of my dogs try to hump the other many times. Though yes, it can be done for pleasure, it is also done to show dominance. Same gender animals do not mate for life, or, really, at all.

What does sperm do? Why, it feeds and fertilizes the egg of a female. Okay, what does it do for men of the same gender? Absolutely nothing but sicknesses. Men are not equipped to have sex with each other at all, and debating that they are is simply illogical.

And yes, if sacrificing evil freedoms/preferences was possible, I would do it in a heartbeat.

I don't see women as baby factories. I see them as a compatible mate that God has made beautiful for men to live with and be blessed by. If I found out that my wife was infertile, it isn't like I would kick her to the curb or something. That is ridiculous.

I literally see zero benefits for homosexuality being legal at all.

Therefore, Russia and I gladly wear the Homophobe Sticker. 👆

Point is, if you want to limit personal freedoms there better be good (REALLY GOOD) reasons for it. Otherwise you're settinng a precedent for banning basic rights for no good reason. I've seen what it did to human rights in my country and how quickly it changed things.

Honestly, the fact that you find yourself in the same camp as the Russian government in terms of human rights should serve as an alarm bell of sorts.

Anyway, good talk.👆 That's already more text than i've posted in the past two years. So I'll be heading out. Consider it my 2 cents and mayby as some food for thought.

SamZED It happens in nature so its natural from a scientific point of view. It's just "natural" has nothing to do with whether humans should engage in that or not.

SamZED To your point of behaving like animals.. killing is also natural. Doesn't mean we should do it.

SamZED And i've yet to see a compelling argument from anybody that allowing same sex relations would cause any real harm to society.

SamZED While most of the arguments against it come from religeous bias or personal disgust.

SamZED Point is, if you want to limit personal freedoms there better be good (REALLY GOOD) reasons for it. Otherwise you're settinng a precedent for banning basic rights for no good reason. I've seen what it did to human rights in my country and how quickly it changed things.

SamZED Honestly, the fact that you find yourself in the same camp as the Russian government in terms of human rights should serve as an alarm bell of sorts.

SamZED Anyway, good talk.thumb up That's already more text than i've posted in the past two years. So I'll be heading out. Consider it my 2 cents and mayby as some food for thought.

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
For animals it might be, but not for humans. Nothing about gay sex is natural at all, and saying that "since animals do it" is a terrible case. You know what else is natural? Eating one's young. As you say, something being natural doesn't make it right or wrong, but I have a weird feeling this is going to warp somewhere...

Depends on the situation of course. Killing out of the anger and evil of one's own heart is wrong, but certain crimes deserve capital penalty.

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/53/suppl_3/S79/312189

Many people consider religion policy, and I definitely do.

So, by this logic, is murder a personal freedom? What if someone believes that? Many do I am sure. I believe that homosexuality is just as bad.

I agree with some of their philosophies, and some I do not. Homosexuality restriction is something this country really needs. 👆

Thanks for taking the time to talk, and I appreciate it. 🙂

Iran agrees with you.

Originally posted by SamZED

Anyway, good talk.👆 That's already more text than i've posted in the past two years. So I'll be heading out. Consider it my 2 cents and mayby as some food for thought.

You really don't have to be so polite and considerate to KMC's resident village idiot my man, just call him a retard and perhaps tell him to kill himself. 👆

Originally posted by truejedi
Iran agrees with you.

Originally posted by NemeBro
You really don't have to be so polite and considerate to KMC's resident village idiot my man, just call him a retard and perhaps tell him to kill himself. 👆

You're a homophobe.

These rightists have all manner of prejudices. He's not just a homophobe.

I think it is the most obviously damning and strips away any weight his words might otherwise carry on any other subjects.

Originally posted by truejedi
I think it is the most obviously damning and strips away any weight his words might otherwise carry on any other subjects.

Originally posted by truejedi
You're a homophobe.

He is homophobic, because he is attracted to transgender women with penises. He is afraid that attraction means he is gay, so he hates on gay people, because of it.